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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2019, 05:26:04 PM »
    Regarding the 2 images above, Lovelady is standing at 2 different heights on 2 different steps. Yet, the alleged Shadow somehow fails to fall across his balding head or face vs still uniformly falling across his entire (R) side. How is this possible ?

Royell, if he moves down the steps at the same angle as the sun's shadow it should  remain the same.

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« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2019, 05:48:57 PM »
Royell, if he moves down the steps at the same angle as the sun's shadow it should  remain the same.

    1 image vs the other shows more of his tee shirt along with more of his body at waist level. I don't believe he is uniformly moving from 1 step to the other like someone at a finishing school balancing a book on the top their head while walking.  This is Not what we are seeing here. It also does not fit the gait of a working stiff making ends meet via laboring at the TSBD.
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Offline Ray Mitcham

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« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2019, 05:59:31 PM »
    1 image vs the other shows more of his tee shirt along with more of his body at waist level. I don't believe he is uniformly moving from 1 step to the other like someone at a finishing school balancing a book on the top their head while walking.  This is Not what we are seeing here. It also does not fit the gait of a working stiff making ends meet via laboring at the TSBD.

Who said anything about him moving uniformly? He just moved down the steps in a downward sideways movement. What's so strange about that? And what has moving down steps got to do with a working stiff labouring at the TSBD?

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #38 on: October 16, 2019, 08:35:23 PM »
Who said anything about him moving uniformly? He just moved down the steps in a downward sideways movement. What's so strange about that? And what has moving down steps got to do with a working stiff labouring at the TSBD?

     The shadow seems peculiar/strange to me based on Lovelady having changed his position on the stairs. I keep hearing that dense black strip that consumes the (R) side of Lovelady is the shadow of a "column". Specifically, what column is being referenced? If that alleged shadow is in fact being cast by a Column, I think it would be wise to take a good look at that column along with other images taken that day that included the column and the shadow it cast. With regard to your question about the movements of a, "working stiff labouring at the TSBD", Lovelady is simply Not going to uniformly step down stairs in a manner taught at the Nancy Manners School Of Etiquette. This structured demeanor would be contrary to Lovelady impulsively hauling arse down the Elm St Extension in addition to his track record of Racing Freight Elevators up-and-down the inside of the TSBD.   

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #39 on: October 16, 2019, 09:47:12 PM »
Alan, I think you will find that Lovelady not only moved down the steps, but also moved to his right (our left) as he did so. This could account for the shadow of the western column remaining in the same position on his body.

But nothing can 'account for the shadow of the western column' because there is no shadow in that part of the entranceway. Mr Lovelady would have to be way over in the orange zone for the western column shadow to fall on him. Impossible!



Do you actually believe Mr Lovelady is way over in the orange zone in the second Wiegman frame here? Do your eyes really tell you that he is over by the redbrick wall, right behind Mr Carl Edward Jones??

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« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2019, 09:55:40 PM »
    I would rule out a coat being the black thing running down the entire side of the person known as Lovelady. To cover that much of his body would require a Trench coat. Many of the TSBD guys were laying plywood flooring that day while being paid minimum wage. This job function along with their scant wage would DQ a trench coat. On top of that, I have Never seen an image of any of the male TSBD employees wearing a trench coat.         

Mr Danny Arce wore a long black coat that day:


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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2019, 10:00:18 PM »
     The shadow seems peculiar/strange to me based on Lovelady having changed his position on the stairs.

Yes, this!

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I keep hearing that dense black strip that consumes the (R) side of Lovelady is the shadow of a "column". Specifically, what column is being referenced? If that alleged shadow is in fact being cast by a Column, I think it would be wise to take a good look at that column along with other images taken that day that included the column and the shadow it cast.

A very good look has been taken at the shadow cast by the western wall (Messrs Stancak, Hackerott et al), and it has been amply demonstrated that it did not go remotely deep (i.e. east) enough into the entranceway to fall on Mr Lovelady where we see him in the Wiegman film.

Whatever is causing that dark strip down Mr Lovelady's side, it is not a natural shadow!
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