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Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #840 on: December 05, 2019, 02:47:47 AM »
Hilarious, they painted a shadow onto Lovelady to hide Oswald but "they" missed the growth coming out of the side of Lovelady's head? WOW.
But considering "they" did all this acquiring, developing, transferring, painting, drying, telecining all in a single afternoon, then missing that huge growth must have been part of the plan, now all we have to do is wait for Ford's wonderful imagination to help us fill in tbe gaps, waiting......
Btw the very foundation of this theory is painting "black" onto celluloid, has Ford actually consulted with any film specialists to establish the feasibility of acclomplishimg this monumental task without detection?

JohnM
I bet you wear fruity fashion glasses, right?
You should throw them away, skip having your eyes checked but make sure you talk to a neurologist.
Etch a Sketch may be what you need instead of glasses.

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #841 on: December 05, 2019, 02:49:36 AM »




Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963, but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

While calculating the position of the center railing I realized that from all the front angles of the TSBD I could find, that the top post of the railing when extended meets the light above virtually dead center.



Now when the perspective above is applied to my super duper GIF, by dropping a plumb line from the center of the lamp we see that the railings positions are accurate but my original lengths were both a bit too long so I "painted them out" and even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out. Anyway we see that where the railing finishes is behind "the lady in black" and Oswald is off under the shadow.



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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #842 on: December 05, 2019, 03:16:19 AM »
James H,
What is the distance from the west wall to where the shadow intersects the landing?
Thank you,
Chris

Chris,
It looks like that distance is about 38” 29" from the wall. The renderings use a rule with 3” sections. I took a number of photos and measures of the doorway structures while in Dallas about 6 weeks ago. So, I may need to make some slight adjustments in the future. Tho Darnell overhead rendering in your post is not mine, but Andre Stancak's.

I also took photos of the doorway that may be of some help or interest in the future. All of those photos were taken while Daylight Savings Time was still in effect.
I hope this helps you.








« Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 04:31:20 AM by James Hackerott »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #843 on: December 05, 2019, 03:20:56 AM »
Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963,

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but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

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You mean the GIF that gets the center railing all wrong?





Hope you are happy to be corrected here too, Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:
« Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 03:40:01 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #844 on: December 05, 2019, 03:28:49 AM »
Thanks for the photo. I was wrong and am happy to be corrected, it doesn't mean that my sun plane physics were wrong just not right for 1963, but it pales into insignificance to the following "Theory Destroying GIF".

While calculating the position of the center railing I realized that from all the front angles of the TSBD I could find, that the top post of the railing when extended meets the light above virtually dead center.



Now when the perspective above is applied to my super duper GIF, by dropping a plumb line from the center of the lamp we see that the railings positions are accurate but my original lengths were both a bit too long so I "painted them out" and even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out. Anyway we see that where the railing finishes is behind "the lady in black" and Oswald is off under the shadow.



JohnM

"even digitally it ain't easy to paint stuff out."

Thanks for your opinion.  Ha ha ha ha ha  You're right, the doctored product fails to look like an original Wake up You think everything is an original, that is simply because you don't know the difference except if you are the one tampering with it. Pretty ignorant, John

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #845 on: December 05, 2019, 04:06:26 AM »

You mean the GIF that gets the center railing all wrong?





Hope you are happy to be corrected here too, Mr Mytton!  Thumb1:



You have absolutely no idea and to save this embarrassment you really should have checked out the perspective 101 sites I sent you to, and btw this fully explains why you suck at placing Lovelady.

Why does your yellow line go straight through the glass into the lobby?
What made you decide to stop the yellow line at the door frame, why not go on through to the Moon?
From the start of the railing how long till it hits the glass?
What is the green line?



JohnM
« Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 04:07:08 AM by John Mytton »

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Those Front Steps
« Reply #846 on: December 05, 2019, 04:18:59 AM »


You have absolutely no idea and to save this embarrassment you really should have checked out the perspective 101 sites I sent you to, and btw this fully explains why you suck at placing Lovelady.

Why does your yellow line go straight through the glass into the lobby?
What made you decide to stop the yellow line at the door frame, why not go on through to the Moon?
From the start of the railing how long till it hits the glass?
What is the green line?



JohnM

 :D :D :D

I simply continued your line's direction of travel, Mr Mytton. You don't like where that line ends up? Fine-------------how about you continue your line's direction of travel and compare it to the direction of travel of the actual railing?



Alternatively, you could save yourself some time (and possibly even further embarrassment) by just putting your hands up and admitting that you screwed up on this one too.

Your choice!  Thumb1: