MARTY - No, I believe know that you purposely misrepresent what I have been saying. You can make up as much as you like, but you only end up looking like a fool.
Instead of discussing the merits here, you seem to keep dodging, hemming and hawing. Further, in order for this ridiculous theory to work, you can't just pick and choose from it and say "see - it happened!" So you think the body, wrapped in sheets as testified by the nurse in TX, was in a body bag later. Great! But that doesn't prove the body alteration story Lifton cooked up. And you can't stop there. You have to work backwards - how was the body wrappings changed? Who said it? Where is the proof of it?
You yourself said several posts above that Dave's ridiculous theory was "problematic." OK, great. You know there's problems with it. So instead of diving into it head first, why don't you list here the "problematic" aspects of this goofy theory and we can debate from there. Otherwise, you're simply dodging discussing the merits of this dumb theory.
This is even a worse reply than your previous "BAWAWAHAHAHA! OMG!"
Instead of discussing the merits here, you seem to keep dodging, hemming and hawing. Coming from a guy who hasn't discussed one iota of the merits of anything, this is pathetically hilarious. And what merits are you on about, anyway?
Instead of discussing the merits, and telling us what you think, your entire post is about me. Why is that? Do you really think that a pathetic focus on me can obscure that fact that you have had nothing of any value to add to the discussion so far?
Further, in order for this ridiculous theory to work, you can't just pick and choose from it and say "see - it happened!" And where exactly, other than in your head, did I do that?
If I understand you correctly, you seem to be saying that if the "body snatch on the plane" theory isn't correct, everything else about Lifton's theory isn't correct either. If that is indeed what you are saying then you are even more superficial and wrong as I thought you were. Even if it could be 100% proven that Kennedy's body wasn't removed from the ornamental casket on the plane, that still would not alter the fact that several witnesses have testified that Kennedy's body was removed from a shipping casket at Bethesda. In other words, there needs to be an explanation for that! And my hypothetical offers precisely such an explanation.
So you think the body, wrapped in sheets as testified by the nurse in TX, was in a body bag later. Great!It's not important what I think. The
fact is that the people who removed Kennedy's body from the shipping casket said it was in a body bag. So, don't make this about me. Respond to what the HSCA testimony of these men says.
But that doesn't prove the body alteration story Lifton cooked up.I never said it did.... You seem to have got so many strawman arguments in your head that you haven't got a clue about what I actually have said. This might even confuse you more than you already are, but a decoy scenario like the body being removed from Parkland in a shipping casket doesn't have to have a nefarious motive.
And you can't stop there. You have to work backwards - how was the body wrappings changed? Who said it? Where is the proof of it?Working backwards from what? Be more specific! I don't know who (or even if) the body wrappings were changed. The fact that Paul O'Connor and others found Kennedy's body in a body bag doesn't mean that the wrapping of towels around his head (because that's all it was) wasn't still there. You need to stop making up stuff and start dealing with the factual evidence instead.
You yourself said several posts above that Dave's ridiculous theory was "problematic." OK, great. You know there's problems with it Sure, so what?
So instead of diving into it head first, why don't you list here the "problematic" aspects of this goofy theory and we can debate from there. Why should I give you such a list, when I have not made any comments about the "body snatch on the plane" theory, beyond that it is problematic. There is nothing to debate. I'm not dancing to your music!
If we are to debate something it should be the hypothetical possibility I offered that Kennedy's body was already removed from the ornamental casket and placed in a shipping casket at Parkland Hospital, with the ornamental casket subsequently being used as a decoy. So far, you have stayed away completely from discussing this hypothetical possibility. Why is that? Could it be this one is less problematic than the "body snatch on the plane" theory and therefor more difficult for you to dismiss?
Otherwise, you're simply dodging discussing the merits of this dumb theory.What dumb theory would that be? If it is the "body snatch on the plane" theory, I don't have to dodge discussing it, because there is nothing to discuss. I have stated that I feel it is a problematic theory for obvious reasons, and that's all I am going to say about that.
If it is the "body removed from casket at Parkland" theory, the only one dodging that one is you. Just like you have dodged my question about Kennedy's body arriving at Bethesda in a body bag in a shipping casket.
If you think (as you seem to) that Kennedy's body was in the ornamental casket all the way from Parkland Hospital to Bethesda, you need to explain how it can be that several witnesses, independently from eachother, saw Kennedy's body, in a body bag, being removed from a shipping casket at Bethesda. But as you have so far dodged doing so, I doubt I will get a plausible explanantion from you any time soon.
