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Online Royell Storing

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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #126 on: August 09, 2019, 08:07:14 PM »
The common misconception of what you see in the Z film is shots were fired there. They were not. Kennedy is simply fluffing his hair, looking around, bringing his arm down and then getting ready to wave to the women to the right of him because they yelled out.

Go to film and photos of the parade and you see this movement of him throughout. I could post here a hair fluffing photo, a sequence where he does the same, he's waving then leaning on the car, and so on. But I won't - look it up. It's not hard to find.

We have to give the conspirators a little bit of credit. They knew the oak tree was in the line of fire early on Elm. They knew that if they started firing away too early, it would have blown everything. The kill zone is pretty much exactly where you see it in the Z film - right as he reappears from the sign. This video goes into detail about it.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7Hr9Lrku-Cxa3NqTEpScWNQZnc

I simply have never understood why people think there's shots fired earlier, sparks flying from the curb and other nonsense. It's pretty straightforward - the vast majority of ear witnesses said they heard 2 close together shots and then the head shot. The Z film backs this up.

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    Giving serious consideration to "ear" witnesses is foolish. Motorcycle cycles backfiring from numerous angles, sound echoing off buildings, and then there is the constant Echo Chamber of WC supporters before, during, and after the release of the WC Report as to 3 shots being fired = "ear" witness accounts as being close to worthless.  This is also why the WC Attorney's almost Never inquire as to the hearing ability of the "ear" witness in front of them. Many, many, many, of the males giving "Ear" witness testimony were WW 2 Vets and those guys had to of had hearing disabilities to some degree. 
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #127 on: August 09, 2019, 08:17:31 PM »
Zapruder reacts with a violent reaction at about Z154, as Rosemary Willis slows, and Connally turns quickly to his right. And it could be argued that Kennedy was also reacting by a sudden turn to his right.

Governor CONNALLY. We had--we had gone, I guess, 150 feet, maybe 200 feet, I don't recall how far it was, heading down to get on the freeway, the Stemmons Freeway, to go out to the hall where we were going to have lunch and, as I say, the crowds had begun to thin, and we could--I was anticipating that we were going to be at the hall in approximately 5 minutes from the time we turned on Elm Street.
We had just made the turn, well, when I heard what I thought was a shot. I heard this noise which I immediately took to be a rifle shot. I instinctively turned to my right because the sound appeared to come from over my rightshoulder, so I turned to look back over my right shoulder...

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/conn_j.htm



Here a few seconds later they are both again violently simultaneously react to something and Connally's wrist with the bullet wound is the one reacting at the same time and as expected the wrist's initial position apears to be in about the right place to be struck by a bullet emerging from just below Connally's right niple.



And guess what there's more, here's Connally's jacket showing a massive reaction. What are the chances that all these "random" reactions happen within this fraction of a second?



Btw the two sbf gifs come from DVP's site and it's worth a visit.
http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/

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     Very detailed description of what we are seeing. But by Golly somehow You Forgot to mention that even though Connally had his Radius Bone Busted along with the Tendon Severed that controls his thumb, he Still somehow managed to maintain his Grip and Hold Onto that stetson hat of his. Strange how You Forgot to include this in your narrative.

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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #128 on: August 09, 2019, 11:24:11 PM »
    Giving serious consideration to "ear" witnesses is foolish. Motorcycle cycles backfiring from numerous angles, sound echoing off buildings, and then there is the constant Echo Chamber of WC supporters before, during, and after the release of the WC Report as to 3 shots being fired = "ear" witness accounts as being close to worthless.  This is also why the WC Attorney's almost Never inquire as to the hearing ability of the "ear" witness in front of them. Many, many, many, of the males giving "Ear" witness testimony were WW 2 Vets and those guys had to of had hearing disabilities to some degree.

Inattentional Deafness: Visual Load Leads to Time-Specific Suppression of Auditory Evoked Responses
https://www.jneurosci.org/content/35/49/16046

Why focusing on a visual task will make us deaf to our surroundings: Concentrating attention on a visual task can render you momentarily 'deaf' to sounds at normal levels
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151208184335.htm
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #129 on: August 10, 2019, 12:14:32 AM »
     Very detailed description of what we are seeing. But by Golly somehow You Forgot to mention that even though Connally had his Radius Bone Busted along with the Tendon Severed that controls his thumb, he Still somehow managed to maintain his Grip and Hold Onto that stetson hat of his. Strange how You Forgot to include this in your narrative.

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I'd expect someone to tighten up rather than relax after taking a bullet. He clutched/clenched the f'n Stetson, Royell.
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #130 on: August 10, 2019, 12:36:18 AM »
     Very detailed description of what we are seeing. But by Golly somehow You Forgot to mention that even though Connally had his Radius Bone Busted along with the Tendon Severed that controls his thumb, he Still somehow managed to maintain his Grip and Hold Onto that stetson hat of his. Strange how You Forgot to include this in your narrative.

Repeating what you read/see on the internet isn't evidence and as Jerry points out, you don't have a clue.
What happened Royell, you were so much better than this?

But anyway Connally's wrist wound can tell us a lot. Firstly the amount of lead in the wrist is tiny and as Lattimer shows us, the approx equivalent amount of missing lead from CE399 is enough to make many tiny lead fragments.



And next we see the WC results of a full on bullet strike on a human wrist and we see massive damage whereas Connally's light fracture indicates a bullet that has been dramatically slowed.



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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #131 on: August 10, 2019, 01:59:57 AM »
Please cite. What book or website did you get this gem from?

Connally's radial nerve was damaged (it supplies sensation to the back of the hand). Undamaged was the median nerve which allows the thumb and fingers to oppose each other, and the forearm to rise up. The sensation of the bullet through the wrist could have stimulated the median nerve and caused the forearm to spring up, like they've been showing you.

     So you want a book or website yet You provide None yourself? Pot meet kettle. Plus, now you are playing the Should/Woulda game with relation to a Possible? forearm "spring up". More Pot meet Kettle. And then, what about the metal fragments remaining in the thigh area? Another convenient Omission that serves your purpose.
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Re: First shot reactions
« Reply #132 on: August 10, 2019, 03:31:25 AM »
LOL! You're some "researcher". If you want the very common and readily-available Sam Holland quotes, just search for Sam Holland and tack on a few words from the quote.

You think I'm going to provide a citation for what the median nerve does?

Be a whole lot quicker for you to provide the sole source in the world for Connally's "Tendon Severed that controls his thumb".

     Non Responsive. Including your Omitting the bullet fragments in the thigh of Connally. Even Humes was on-the-record as Not buying into the SBT. Of course, he was well aware of the fragments in the thigh.