Frazier's rifle length estimate.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Frazier's rifle length estimate.
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2019, 05:29:41 PM »
Even in the poor photocopy quality exhibit, it's clear if someone was passing behind those slats you would see someone moving behind those slats and you would see them approach the rear of the car then you would hear the rear car door opening, it's not rocket science.

That's not what she claimed.

Mr. BALL. Did you see him go to the car?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. What did he do?
Mrs. RANDLE. He opened the right back door and I just saw that he was laying the package down so I closed the door.

That's some pretty impressive hearing skills.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2019, 05:34:02 PM »
First of all it's not a photo but a poor multi generational, black and white, overly saturated, photocopy quality image, strike 1.
Secondly the original photo was taken with a flash and at a different time of day than what Linnie Mae saw. strike 2.
Thirdly even the best camera can't emulate the contrast range of the human eye. Strike 3 and you're out!

So, your evidence that she saw Oswald open the rear door on the opposite side of the car and lay a package down on the back seat is that you want it to be true?

Got it.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2019, 05:34:59 PM »
Iacoletti,

You have a "problem" with an example of technical visual terminology in the context of the JFK assassination, especially when it's used to build a case against your boy, Oswald?

Kinda like your unwillingness to understand why your putative, temporary "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3 (Gloria Calvery) appears to you NOT to be wearing glasses, after all, especially after you enlarge the heck out of her face and ignore the fact that her face is turned to her right, directly into the low, late-November noontime sun, and that the glass in her right lens is refracting and reflecting said light in such a way as to "obliterate," in the photo, the black plastic frame on that side of her face?

And you conclude, therefore, that that horizontal black thing in the area of her eyes couldn't possibly be glasses, but is obviously a dragonfly, or a tree branch, or a floating shadow, or way too much mascara, instead?

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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: Frazier's rifle length estimate.
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2019, 09:54:50 PM »
No I don't believe the curtain rod story at all.  >:(

Neither does Buell Frazier.

He doesn't think Oswald's long package contained a rifle.

He doesn't know what was in Oswald's long package... or apparently cares.

But "wonder of wonders": He believes that Lee Oswald lied to him about "curtain rods".

Another one who does not care about: "Where does this lead"?
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Frazier's rifle length estimate.
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2019, 09:57:12 PM »
The Captains Contrarian are at it again.  What is being alleged?  That Randle is making up the story for some unknown reason?  She lied about seeing Oswald place the package in the car.  These are same guys who refuse to ever acknowledge that they are claiming a conspiracy even by implication but time and again they suggest random citizens lied about what they saw.  Not just mistaken but an outright intentional lie.  The why is always left for us to ponder.  Remember is it a "small" conspiracy that simply involves everyone in Dallas.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2019, 10:11:43 PM »
The Captains Contrarian are at it again.  What is being alleged?

That there is no evidence whatsoever that either the bag that Frazier saw or the CE142 bag ever contained the C2766 rifle or any other rifle.

Who's calling Randle a conspirator or even a liar?  It's either possible to see a car through that wall or it isn't.  We only have one photo from Randle's position.  Do you see the car?  Do you see the back door of the car?  Do you even see "Mytton's" "specular highlights"?

Offline Tom Scully

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Re: Frazier's rifle length estimate.
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2019, 10:23:42 PM »
That there is no evidence whatsoever that either the bag that Frazier saw or the CE142 bag ever contained the C2766 rifle or any other rifle.

Who's calling Randle a conspirator or even a liar?  It's either possible to see a car through that wall or it isn't.  We only have one photo from Randle's position.  Do you see the car?  Do you see the back door of the car?  Do you even see "Mytton's" "specular highlights"?

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