Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2019, 11:01:15 PM »
Just found a similar claim in Reclaiming History. (below) I have the book (of course lol) but the source notes are on the CD that comes with the book. Unfortunately, I lent out the CD and never got it back. Hopefully, another member can help.
https://books.google.com/books?id=q1VJAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA743&lpg=PA743&dq=neighbors+saw+Oswald+dry+firing+rifle&source=bl&ots=6BS1T4SArg&sig=ACfU3U2V48SRZvUe7lAE5qC7RdpdJsetpw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR7cyLi4jjAhUPyFkKHUZFCt4Q6AEwDnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=neighbors%20saw%20Oswald%20dry%20firing%20rifle&f=false

I will look it up when I get back home in a short while.

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2019, 11:04:27 PM »
I will look it up when I get back home in a short while.

Thanks Charles, good man.  Thumb1:
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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2019, 11:05:54 PM »
Just found a similar claim in Reclaiming History. (below) I have the book (of course lol) but the source notes are on the CD that comes with the book. Unfortunately, I lent out the CD and never got it back. Hopefully, another member can help.
https://books.google.com/books?id=q1VJAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA743&lpg=PA743&dq=neighbors+saw+Oswald+dry+firing+rifle&source=bl&ots=6BS1T4SArg&sig=ACfU3U2V48SRZvUe7lAE5qC7RdpdJsetpw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR7cyLi4jjAhUPyFkKHUZFCt4Q6AEwDnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=neighbors%20saw%20Oswald%20dry%20firing%20rifle&f=false

1365. 1 H 21–22, WCT Marina N. Oswald; McMillan, Marina and Lee, pp.451–452; CE 1154, 22 H 190.

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2019, 11:10:54 PM »
1365. 1 H 21–22, WCT Marina N. Oswald; McMillan, Marina and Lee, pp.451–452; CE 1154, 22 H 190.

Excellent John, sorry you had to do the leg work for me. Thumb1: So, presumably Marina is the original source? That's going to be hard to prove!

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2019, 11:16:22 PM »
1H21-22 is Marina's testimony.  Nothing about dry-firing.

McMillan's claim is unsourced.

I can't find anything in CE 1154 having to do with a rifle at all.
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Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2019, 12:10:07 AM »
1H21-22 is Marina's testimony.  Nothing about dry-firing.

McMillan's claim is unsourced.

I can't find anything in CE 1154 having to do with a rifle at all.

Yeah but, as I understand it, most of the McMillan book is from interviews between herself and Marina. In which case Marina would be McMillan's source. That's what I meant when I said it's going to be hard to prove, only Marina can confirm or deny this and she's not exactly responsive to answering questions these days. Also, of course, Marina's 'word' is worth zilch to many, if not all CT's!
« Last Edit: June 27, 2019, 12:16:48 AM by Denis Pointing »

Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald’s notes in his guidebook for marines
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2019, 05:30:38 AM »
Yeah but, as I understand it, most of the McMillan book is from interviews between herself and Marina. In which case Marina would be McMillan's source. That's what I meant when I said it's going to be hard to prove, only Marina can confirm or deny this and she's not exactly responsive to answering questions these days. Also, of course, Marina's 'word' is worth zilch to many, if not all CT's!

If Marina wanted to nail Oswald about his rifle use she could have said almost anything but all she says is that Oswald dry fired his rifle in the dark and once aimed out on the street, her story sounds plausible and doesn't really prove anything.

There was one sinister novelty in their lives. One evening at the end of August Marina returned from a twilight stroll with June and found Lee on their screened-in side porch, kneeling on one knee, aiming his rifle into the street and working the bolt—dry firing. It was the first time she had seen him playing with his carbine since they moved to New Orleans. She was horrified.    “What are you doing?” she demanded.    “Get the heck out of here,” he said. “Don’t talk to me. Get on about your own affairs.”    From then on she often heard him dry firing the rifle on the porch in the dark. He had fixed a lamp out there so that he could read in the evening, but he left it off when he was drilling with the rifle so the neighbors could not see him. Marina chided and even ridiculed him about it, but he was deadly serious: “If Fidel Castro needs defenders,” he told her, “I’m going to join an army of volunteers. I’m going to be a revolutionary.
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