Motive

[Charles Collins]

Great black humour in the movie, though

'You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!'

'Premier Kissoff' haha

Yes, I need to watch that movie again. Thanks.

[John Mytton]

I reckon Oswald's motive can be reasonably established by examining two people in 1963 that Oswald pointed his rifle at(Walker and Kennedy) and what was their connection?

During February 1963, Walker joined Billy Hargis in an anti-communist tour named "Operation Midnight Ride".[24] In a speech Walker made on March 5, reported in the Dallas Times Herald, he called on the United States military to "liquidate the [communist] scourge that has descended upon the island of Cuba."[25] Seven days later, Lee Harvey Oswald ordered by mail a Carcano rifle, using the alias "A. Hidell."[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker

And 3 days after the following article was printed in the Dallas Times Herald, Kennedy was assassinated.



Oswald has a proven history of supporting Cuba.



Oswald's possessions.



Mr. DULLES. Have you any views of your own as to motive from your talks with him? Did you get any clues as to possible motive in assassinating the President?
Mr. FRITZ. I can only tell you what little I know now. I am sure that we have people in Washington here that can tell far more than I can.
Mr. DULLES. Well, you saw the man and the others didn't see the man.
Mr. FRITZ. I got the impression, I got the impression that he was doing it because of his feeling about the Castro revolution, and I think that he felt, he had a lot of feeling about that revolution. I think that was the reason. I noticed another thing. I noticed a little before when Walker was shot, he had come out with some statements about Castro and about Cuba and a lot of things and if you will remember the President had some stories a few weeks before his death about Cuba and about Castro and some things, and I wondered if that didn't have some bearing. I have no way of knowing that other than just watching him and talking to him. I think it was his feeling about his belief in being a Marxist, I think he had--he told me he had debated in New Orleans, and that he tried to get converts to this Fair Play for Cuba organization, so I think that was his motive. I think he was doing it because of that.

JohnM

[Thomas Graves]

I reckon Oswald's motive can be reasonably established by examining two people in 1963 that Oswald pointed his rifle at(Walker and Kennedy) and what was their connection?

During February 1963, Walker joined Billy Hargis in an anti-communist tour named "Operation Midnight Ride".[24] In a speech Walker made on March 5, reported in the Dallas Times Herald, he called on the United States military to "liquidate the [communist] scourge that has descended upon the island of Cuba."[25] Seven days later, Lee Harvey Oswald ordered by mail a Carcano rifle, using the alias "A. Hidell."[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker

And 3 days after the following article was printed in the Dallas Times Herald, Kennedy was assassinated.



Oswald has a proven history of supporting Cuba.



Oswald's possessions.



Mr. DULLES. Have you any views of your own as to motive from your talks with him? Did you get any clues as to possible motive in assassinating the President?
Mr. FRITZ. I can only tell you what little I know now. I am sure that we have people in Washington here that can tell far more than I can.
Mr. DULLES. Well, you saw the man and the others didn't see the man.
Mr. FRITZ. I got the impression, I got the impression that he was doing it because of his feeling about the Castro revolution, and I think that he felt, he had a lot of feeling about that revolution. I think that was the reason. I noticed another thing. I noticed a little before when Walker was shot, he had come out with some statements about Castro and about Cuba and a lot of things and if you will remember the President had some stories a few weeks before his death about Cuba and about Castro and some things, and I wondered if that didn't have some bearing. I have no way of knowing that other than just watching him and talking to him. I think it was his feeling about his belief in being a Marxist, I think he had--he told me he had debated in New Orleans, and that he tried to get converts to this Fair Play for Cuba organization, so I think that was his motive. I think he was doing it because of that.

JohnM

John,

Great post.

I think the literature is particularly damning.  I wonder if those publications were ever checked for Oswald's fingerprints?

My current (lol) theory is a synthesis of Ion Pacepa's Programmed To Kill and Gus Russo's Live By The Sword, with a little reverse spin on John Newman's Oswald and the CIA thrown in.

-- MWT 

PS  The only problem I have is Buell Wesley Frazier's saying the package was only 24-to-25 inches long, and that Oswald carried it with one end cupped in his hand, and the other end in his armpit.

[Michael O'Brian]

John,

Great post.

I think the literature is particularly damning.  I wonder if those publications were ever checked for Oswald's fingerprints?

My current (lol) theory is a synthesis of Ion Pacepa's Programmed To Kill and Gus Russo's Live By The Sword, with a little reverse spin on John Newman's Oswald and the CIA thrown in.

-- MWT 

PS  The only problem I have is Buell Wesley Frazier's saying the package was only 24-to-25 inches long, and that Oswald carried it with one end cupped in his hand, and the other end in his armpit.

Walker was the mastermind behind these murders in Dallas on 22.11.63 

[Charles Collins]

I reckon Oswald's motive can be reasonably established by examining two people in 1963 that Oswald pointed his rifle at(Walker and Kennedy) and what was their connection?

During February 1963, Walker joined Billy Hargis in an anti-communist tour named "Operation Midnight Ride".[24] In a speech Walker made on March 5, reported in the Dallas Times Herald, he called on the United States military to "liquidate the [communist] scourge that has descended upon the island of Cuba."[25] Seven days later, Lee Harvey Oswald ordered by mail a Carcano rifle, using the alias "A. Hidell."[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker

And 3 days after the following article was printed in the Dallas Times Herald, Kennedy was assassinated.





Oswald has a proven history of supporting Cuba.



Oswald's possessions.



Mr. DULLES. Have you any views of your own as to motive from your talks with him? Did you get any clues as to possible motive in assassinating the President?
Mr. FRITZ. I can only tell you what little I know now. I am sure that we have people in Washington here that can tell far more than I can.
Mr. DULLES. Well, you saw the man and the others didn't see the man.
Mr. FRITZ. I got the impression, I got the impression that he was doing it because of his feeling about the Castro revolution, and I think that he felt, he had a lot of feeling about that revolution. I think that was the reason. I noticed another thing. I noticed a little before when Walker was shot, he had come out with some statements about Castro and about Cuba and a lot of things and if you will remember the President had some stories a few weeks before his death about Cuba and about Castro and some things, and I wondered if that didn't have some bearing. I have no way of knowing that other than just watching him and talking to him. I think it was his feeling about his belief in being a Marxist, I think he had--he told me he had debated in New Orleans, and that he tried to get converts to this Fair Play for Cuba organization, so I think that was his motive. I think he was doing it because of that.

JohnM

All of this obviously had a lot to do with his state of mind at the time. I wonder, if Oswald hadn't been stopped so soon, whether there would have been an airplane hijacked to Cuba out of Love Field later that day or soon after that.

[John Mytton]

John,

Great post.

I think the literature is particularly damning.  I wonder if those publications were ever checked for Oswald's fingerprints?

My current (lol) theory is a synthesis of Ion Pacepa's Programmed To Kill and Gus Russo's Live By The Sword, with a little reverse spin on John Newman's Oswald and the CIA thrown in.

-- MWT 

PS  The only problem I have is Buell Wesley Frazier's saying the package was only 24-to-25 inches long, and that Oswald carried it with one end cupped in his hand, and the other end in his armpit.

Hi Thomas, thanks for the feedback. As for Frazier;

1. Frazier tells us during his testimony that he wasn't "paying much attention to the bag"
2. Oswald tells Frazier he's carrying curtain rods
3. Oswald tells his interrogators that he has his lunch in the bag.
4. Frazier says the bag was on the back seat.
5. Oswald says he carried the bag on his lap.
6. The bag matches the size of the broken down rifle.
7. The bag has Oswald's prints.
8. The bag was found in the sniper's nest.



JohnM

[Thomas Graves]

Hi Thomas, thanks for the feedback. As for Frazier;

1. Frazier tells us during his testimony that he wasn't "paying much attention to the bag"
2. Oswald tells Frazier he's carrying curtain rods
3. Oswald tells his interrogators that he has his lunch in the bag.
4. Frazier says the bag was on the back seat.
5. Oswald says he carried the bag on his lap.
6. The bag matches the size of the broken down rifle.
7. The bag has Oswald's prints.
8. The bag was found in the sniper's nest.



JohnM

John,

Yes, but it seems to me that his "not paying much attention" to the package is contradicted by his describing it more recently as being "24 to 25 inches in length" (iirc)

Why not say it was "24-to-30 inches in length", or something, instead?

Why the only one inch increment?

Smacks of a close observation on his part, imho.

Just saying ...

-- MWT 

PS  I wonder if anyone has determined how many inches there are from a typical 5' 9.5" American man's armpit to the cup of his hand?

Point being: If the package was only 25 inches long, would it have been long enough to fit well from Oswald's armpit to his hand?