Motive

[Ross Lidell]

You may well be right Paul. Personally, I think you're giving Oswald too deep a motive. I believe Oswald was on the edge of losing it for years. The failure to reconcile with Marina pushed him over the edge and the nasty little bastard just went out and 'did it' out of pure spite. No plan, no thought of escape. The SOB just wanted to get even with the world, get 'famous'. Who really knows? You can't explain the motives of a nut job.

You're right Denis. However, the language does not fit the location... Texas.

Lee Harvey Oswald killed President John F. Kennedy out of "sheer cussedness".

CUSSEDNESS: meanspirited, disagreeable, contrariness.

[Walt Cakebread]

According to Marina, he lied because he enjoyed it, not because he needed to.

And I don’t recall seeing any evidence of your idea of the motive.

You're comfortable in believing that the chump ( patsy) performed the impossible....Sweet Dreams.. Charlie.

[Thomas Graves]

Oswald, as was his nature had a fundamental issue with the American government. He believed the government worked against the average American; the working class. As head of the government, the POTUS was responsible. Those who knew Oswald have said over the years that he, Oswald liked and admired Kennedy on a personal level. Didn’t matter in Oswald’s damaged psyche. He wasn’t shooting JFK.  He was shooting the POTUS and all that position represented in the world.  Chaos. He believed guns were made to change the world.

Paul,

In general I agree with your assessment.

The way I see it, Oswald was a self-described Castro-loving Marxist who held a grudge against all governments (except Cuba's), and against the U.S. government in particular.

If he killed Kennedy, he did so not only to speed up "the dialectics of history," but -- having read about Castro's 7th of September dire warning to "American leaders" who were trying to knock him off -- to prevent Jack and Bobby from killing Castro before the 1964 presidential election.

-- MWT 

[Allan Fritzke]

There is a full and complete accounting of Oswald's finances and how he got his job in Russia.  Do you really believe that if Oswald was on someone's payroll to assassinate the president that this income would be reflected on his W-2s?  Whew.  Oswald only failed to hit Walker because his bullet deflected off of a window frame.  Oswald was trained to shoot a rifle in the USMC.

Where is this information?   We don't need witnesses, we need paper evidence such as bank statements and transactions.  The Warren Commission adopted a prosecutor stance that the shooting involved a single lone nut gunman LHO and they brought only documents forward to support that - nothing ever to the contrary.

Look at modern day George Papadopoulos, lured to Rome and interviewed by CIA/FBI team members working with them and for them.     Then the information is used against him.   So.......you interview who you want, pick and choose statements and introduce them as evidence of collusion - very corrupt system and this is not the first time "framing" has occurred to gain the end result!     When you control the narrative and evidence gathering by using "media" and "insiders", you can control the end game.   The continued bombardment of Trump as a babbling fool by the MSM has a purpose.   This is no different than controlling when and what people were allowed to see with LHO.    More than 50 years later,  documents still withheld from the public as a matter of national security!    Why the need for secrecy if it wasn't a coup?    Trumps polls are weak because of the dirt the propaganda network throws against him daily.   JFK and him are the only 2 presidents that never drew a wage for themselves - they tried or try to do things for the good of their country.   

In the case of JFK, independent investigators were not  allowed to question the handling or gathering of evidence - including the removal of the President's limousine from the crime scene in Texas - just another one of those things where independent investigators were prevented from finding the truth and they could control the story line.   Providing documents typed out from witnesses and having them sign them controls the situation.   No grand jury and a special investigative teams provides bias reporting and fuels conspiracy!   Examples,  "Warren Commission Report",  "911 Report" and now "Mueller Report".    It all becomes a "matter of national security" as you have to "filter" what the people are allowed to see!    Put the right people on the investigative team and you make it one-sided and purposeful.  JMO.

[Richard Smith]

Where is this information?   We don't need witnesses, we need paper evidence such as bank statements and transactions.  The Warren Commission adopted a prosecutor stance that the shooting involved a single lone nut gunman LHO and they brought only documents forward to support that - nothing ever to the contrary.

Look at modern day George Papadopoulos, lured to Rome and interviewed by CIA/FBI team members working with them and for them.     Then the information is used against him.   So.......you interview who you want, pick and choose statements and introduce them as evidence of collusion - very corrupt system and this is not the first time "framing" has occurred to gain the end result!     When you control the narrative and evidence gathering by using "media" and "insiders", you can control the end game.   The continued bombardment of Trump as a babbling fool by the MSM has a purpose.   This is no different than controlling when and what people were allowed to see with LHO.    More than 50 years later,  documents still withheld from the public as a matter of national security!    Why the need for secrecy if it wasn't a coup?    Trumps polls are weak because of the dirt the propaganda network throws against him daily.   JFK and him are the only 2 presidents that never drew a wage for themselves - they tried or try to do things for the good of their country.   

In the case of JFK, independent investigators were not  allowed to question the handling or gathering of evidence - including the removal of the President's limousine from the crime scene in Texas - just another one of those things where independent investigators were prevented from finding the truth and they could control the story line.   Providing documents typed out from witnesses and having them sign them controls the situation.   No grand jury and a special investigative teams provides bias reporting and fuels conspiracy!   Examples,  "Warren Commission Report",  "911 Report" and now "Mueller Report".    It all becomes a "matter of national security" as you have to "filter" what the people are allowed to see!    Put the right people on the investigative team and you make it one-sided and purposeful.  JMO.

An accounting of Oswald's finances is laid out in detail by the WC.  In addition, various "researchers" - most of whom believe in Oswald's innocence - have turned over every stone for the past 50 plus years grasping at any straw.  There is nothing in his finances that lends credence to a conspiracy connection.  This is the most investigated case in the history of crime.   Your objection appears more related to the conclusions reached than the investigation.   There are legitimate reasons for not releasing every document among the millions generated by this case.  For example, many people and their families who may have assisted the FBI and CIA in their investigation of Oswald's alleged connections to the Mob, Russians, and Cubans are still alive and subject to repercussions for their cooperation.  My understanding is that many of Oswald's tax documents have been released and can be found via a simple Google search.  To the extent that any are not available, it is a matter of privacy laws rather than any cover up. 

[Allan Fritzke]

An accounting of Oswald's finances is laid out in detail by the WC.

Again, like the Mueller Report run by people with a purpose and objective, you are given a solution and are told to accept it because they are experts and you are not.  Only believe!  They also control every aspect of what is written you must understand.  Here is a good example today which applies to yesteryear.   If you can clear Hilary Clinton of any wrong doing (Russian Collusion which most definitely occurred with links to Clinton Foundation, Uranium one, Fusion GPS, Steele Dossier, home server bleached bit disks and devices destroyed with hammer) - and then turn around and use the same agents to use the false info collected to implicate Russian Collusion by the Trump campaign, inviting and interviewing George Papadopoulous to Rome for a setup interview and write up a misleading report - you have issues that run very deep and go back many years.  That was not the first time.  LHO was no different.   He was used and never realized it.   Was he a spy sent to Russia to gain information or was he a defector?  Double agent?  After all he was a US Marine who served his country for some time.  I don't think it is that easy to become a Marine - they undergo vigorous testing and loyalty tests.

You will never be allowed to see any information which implicated any of the 3 lettered organizations that do not report to the common people.  They operate on their own turf,  if you want to remove a car from the crime scene and investigate it yourselves, you can.   They operate above the law (police force).  If you want to remove a body from a crime scene and take it to another jurisdiction, you can overrule the local coroner and get away with it.   If you are implicated with anything, simply run it through the shredder and it can never be proven or disproven.   

Modern day Hilary Clinton was interviewed by the FBI but always off the record with no recording.      LHO was in custody for a couple of days,  no recordings of his interviews made, no statements taken, only a purely controlled environment left behind and paper statements produced.   If you look back at crime scene, everyone flooded towards the grassy knoll.    One of the first reports by a reporter reported a single shot that sounded like a fire cracker and then 2 shots followed in "quick succession".   If you were reloading your Carcano bolt action rifle, you can't have 2 shots in quick succession!   Rebolting, Re-aiming means shots have to come out at about the same intervals.   Zapruder's film clearly shows the delay between 1st bullet and 2 and 3.   Clearly the first indication of where bullets came from was the grassy knoll and underpass area as people raced up there.    It makes sense when you see JFK's head slap back when the killshot hits him.  Even the car's sun visors are up and out of position.  It did not knock him forward!   LHO has no motive in the whole story other than to follow orders given him.  If they tell him to go to a theater to hide, he does that.   

 

In addition, various "researchers" - most of whom believe in Oswald's innocence - have turned over every stone for the past 50 plus years grasping at any straw.  There is nothing in his finances that lends credence to a conspiracy connection.  This is the most investigated case in the history of crime.

The man, LHO was dead, why can't the tax returns be revealed?   Link me to google, afraid you can't!   This investigation was a report from a commission not by investigators of crime.     One of their objectives was to make sure that a coup d'etat was not found to have taken place as it would have sent the country into chaos.    If the FBI and Secret Service were found to be part of it, who could you trust?    They did the investigating - so you can rule that one out immediately!  The initial report by a reporter on the scene also indicates that there was "convey spreading" that took place to give place for a clearer shot?  Coincidence?  Clearly you can see lead car under the overpass already and the limo then passes them on the way to hospital!    Even the Coroner's report was shredded in Bethesda and never issued as it had blood on it.   It was even done by a real coroner!  Every aspect of that investigation was botched, and CTers speculate that it was done on purpose to hide those responsible - LNers buy into it hook line and sinker that it was a lone nut gunman!

Your objection appears more related to the conclusions reached than the investigation.   There are legitimate reasons for not releasing every document among the millions generated by this case.  For example, many people and their families who may have assisted the FBI and CIA in their investigation of Oswald's alleged connections to the Mob, Russians, and Cubans are still alive and subject to repercussions for their cooperation.  My understanding is that many of Oswald's tax documents have been released and can be found via a simple Google search.  To the extent that any are not available, it is a matter of privacy laws rather than any cover up.

They have generated so many documents and rabbit trails that in itself proves a coverup took place.  If there was a lone nut gunman  responsible for the shooting,  there would have been no problem with having everything investigated right there in Dallas.  The Secret Service forcibly removed the President's body and the car (crime scene) quickly and shipped back before anyone independent could examine in Dallas.   The SS are responsible for evasive maneuvers and after the first shot came in - they did nothing except slow down.  It is little wonder that Jacqueline said "THEY killed him".   She would have been the only witness  in history which was never interviewed or allowed to testify as to what she saw.   Even if a man kills his wife, he is not exempt from examination even if it is his wife!     They slowed down so much that Clint Hill could run from the back car to the lead car and jump on - pretty sad!       

Yes, Give me the google links in a google search to reveal his tax returns.  Post them!  It seems they can get them for Trump.  Richard you can't and you know that.   Anything you don't want the peasants to see has been "whitewashed(shredded)" or becomes a matter of "privacy laws" and "national security".  That pretty well blankets it if you don't want to release anything, cite that for reason!   If that doesn't work, take the 5th!

[Richard Smith]

Again, like the Mueller Report run by people with a purpose and objective, you are given a solution and are told to accept it because they are experts and you are not.  Only believe!  They also control every aspect of what is written you must understand.  Here is a good example today which applies to yesteryear.   If you can clear Hilary Clinton of any wrong doing (Russian Collusion which most definitely occurred with links to Clinton Foundation, Uranium one, Fusion GPS, Steele Dossier, home server bleached bit disks and devices destroyed with hammer) - and then turn around and use the same agents to use the false info collected to implicate Russian Collusion by the Trump campaign, inviting and interviewing George Papadopoulous to Rome for a setup interview and write up a misleading report - you have issues that run very deep and go back many years.  That was not the first time.  LHO was no different.   He was used and never realized it.   Was he a spy sent to Russia to gain information or was he a defector?  Double agent?  After all he was a US Marine who served his country for some time.  I don't think it is that easy to become a Marine - they undergo vigorous testing and loyalty tests.

You will never be allowed to see any information which implicated any of the 3 lettered organizations that do not report to the common people.  They operate on their own turf,  if you want to remove a car from the crime scene and investigate it yourselves, you can.   They operate above the law (police force).  If you want to remove a body from a crime scene and take it to another jurisdiction, you can overrule the local coroner and get away with it.   If you are implicated with anything, simply run it through the shredder and it can never be proven or disproven.   

Modern day Hilary Clinton was interviewed by the FBI but always off the record with no recording.      LHO was in custody for a couple of days,  no recordings of his interviews made, no statements taken, only a purely controlled environment left behind and paper statements produced.   If you look back at crime scene, everyone flooded towards the grassy knoll.    One of the first reports by a reporter reported a single shot that sounded like a fire cracker and then 2 shots followed in "quick succession".   If you were reloading your Carcano bolt action rifle, you can't have 2 shots in quick succession!   Rebolting, Re-aiming means shots have to come out at about the same intervals.   Zapruder's film clearly shows the delay between 1st bullet and 2 and 3.   Clearly the first indication of where bullets came from was the grassy knoll and underpass area as people raced up there.    It makes sense when you see JFK's head slap back when the killshot hits him.  Even the car's sun visors are up and out of position.  It did not knock him forward!   LHO has no motive in the whole story other than to follow orders given him.  If they tell him to go to a theater to hide, he does that.   

 
The man, LHO was dead, why can't the tax returns be revealed?   Link me to google, afraid you can't!   This investigation was a report from a commission not by investigators of crime.     One of their objectives was to make sure that a coup d'etat was not found to have taken place as it would have sent the country into chaos.    If the FBI and Secret Service were found to be part of it, who could you trust?    They did the investigating - so you can rule that one out immediately!  The initial report by a reporter on the scene also indicates that there was "convey spreading" that took place to give place for a clearer shot?  Coincidence?  Clearly you can see lead car under the overpass already and the limo then passes them on the way to hospital!    Even the Coroner's report was shredded in Bethesda and never issued as it had blood on it.   It was even done by a real coroner!  Every aspect of that investigation was botched, and CTers speculate that it was done on purpose to hide those responsible - LNers buy into it hook line and sinker that it was a lone nut gunman!

They have generated so many documents and rabbit trails that in itself proves a coverup took place.  If there was a lone nut gunman  responsible for the shooting,  there would have been no problem with having everything investigated right there in Dallas.  The Secret Service forcibly removed the President's body and the car (crime scene) quickly and shipped back before anyone independent could examine in Dallas.   The SS are responsible for evasive maneuvers and after the first shot came in - they did nothing except slow down.  It is little wonder that Jacqueline said "THEY killed him".   She would have been the only witness  in history which was never interviewed or allowed to testify as to what she saw.   Even if a man kills his wife, he is not exempt from examination even if it is his wife!     They slowed down so much that Clint Hill could run from the back car to the lead car and jump on - pretty sad!       

Yes, Give me the google links in a google search to reveal his tax returns.  Post them!  It seems they can get them for Trump.  Richard you can't and you know that.   Anything you don't want the peasants to see has been "whitewashed(shredded)" or becomes a matter of "privacy laws" and "national security".  That pretty well blankets it if you don't want to release anything, cite that for reason!   If that doesn't work, take the 5th!

You appear to have access to a computer.  Go to Google and type in "Oswald's tax returns".  See what happens.  I don't believe there would have been any 1963 tax form for Oswald because he was dead.  Gary Mack provided some insight on Oswald's taxes: "All his tax returns were released except for 1962. Marina has a copy and researchers have examined it and found nothing suspicious or anything that was not already known."

Also read 26 USC Sec. 6103 which protects the confidentiality of tax returns (even of deceased individuals) except under certain enumerated conditions:  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

After you have done this give some thought to the likelihood of a "secret agent" Oswald reporting any income on his taxes for services involved in a conspiracy to assassinating the president.