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Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: Motive
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2019, 11:58:14 AM »
Hi Dennis, I seem to remember he bought a bus ticket and paid for a cab ride.....do we need to add that to the $13.87? In any event the amount does not allow a for a reasonable "escape plan"....agree?

Were the fares $1.23? He would have taken at least $15.10. He needed the dime to reassemble the rifle no doubt.

I've never believed Oswald expected to escape, so no, $14 does not allow for an escape plan. As for "Were the fares $1.23? He would have taken at least $15.10." Colin, neither you nor I know if Oswald had a couple of $ back at the rooming house or in another pair of pants. We really gonna quibble over $1.23? As for "He needed the dime to reassemble the rifle no doubt"....Why the sarcasm!? Does every post have to get nasty these days?

Online John Mytton

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« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2019, 12:10:09 PM »
Hi Colin, the fact Oswald took $13.87 (to be exact) with him that morning indicates to me that Oswald's 'plan' was so haphazard and dependent on luck, that Oswald was far from sure it would happen. If he got the chance great, if not.... If it didn't happen the $14 would be about right, Marina testified; "that when he was living by himself in a rooming house, he would spend about a dollar, $1.30 for dinner and have a sandwich and soft drink for lunch." So allowing for travel expenses, miscellaneous expenses the sums about right.

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the fact Oswald took $13.87 (to be exact) with him that morning

Hi Denis, wouldn't that be $13.87 + bus + taxi + possible morning tea truck + coke.
Btw I just realized this myself, after all this time and I never did the math or maybe I did and just forgot, it's been a long time.
Edit I just read your above post where Oswald could have grabbed some spare change and a few bucks from his rooming house which is something I never thought of.

JohnM
« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 12:29:09 PM by John Mytton »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Motive
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2019, 12:17:11 PM »
I've never believed Oswald expected to escape, so no, $14 does not allow for an escape plan. As for "Were the fares $1.23? He would have taken at least $15.10." Colin, neither you nor I know if Oswald had a couple of $ back at the rooming house or in another pair of pants. We really gonna quibble over $1.23? As for "He needed the dime to reassemble the rifle no doubt"....Why the sarcasm!? Does every post have to get nasty these days?

My recollection was the $13.87. Confirmed by John's pic. Also in that doc is the total of fares. We all agree that no effective escape plan without external assistance or robbing a bank after the event perhaps. We don’t know for sure what other funds he had access to.

As for the dime comment.......was meant more of a wink joke......apologies if you took offence. Do you think all my posts are nasty? Would be disappointed if that was the case.

Offline Colin Crow

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« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2019, 12:25:20 PM »

Ok, Ruth and Marina are out the front when Oswald gets to the Paine residence, sure Oswald could probably talk his way out of it but it would be a hassle and I think he sensed that Ruth was not happy with the unusual mid week visit so probably wouldn't want to create any trouble for him or Marina.

JohnM

I sure wouldn’t want to get on Ruth's bad side either,......fortunately Jack Ruby eased his suffering.

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Re: Motive
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2019, 12:38:25 PM »
I sure wouldn’t want to get on Ruth's bad side either,......fortunately Jack Ruby eased his suffering.

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I sure wouldn’t want to get on Ruth's bad side either,

She would definitely be the Man in the relationship. Am I allowed to say that?

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....fortunately Jack Ruby eased his suffering.

Jack Ruby was judge, jury and executioner "American Justice", I would have preferred a trial but in the end the Dallas Police, the FBI and the WC did a pretty good job.

JohnM
« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 12:41:29 PM by John Mytton »

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Motive
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2019, 12:39:07 PM »
Any quotes to prove your assertion yet Charles?

Others have already posted it in this thread. I might add that it appears to me that LHO typically didn’t have much money anyway. And the fact that he left a large (for him) sum of money that day indicates that he had kept most of what he had on his person.

Offline Colin Crow

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« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2019, 01:00:56 PM »
Others have already posted it in this thread. I might add that it appears to me that LHO typically didn’t have much money anyway. And the fact that he left a large (for him) sum of money that day indicates that he had kept most of what he had on his person.

"He normally kept whatever he had on his person according to Marina."

Charles Collins

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, in my room at Ruth Paine’s there was a black wallet in a wardrobe. Whenever Lee would come he would put money in there, but I never counted it.
Mr. RANKIN. On the evening of November 21st, do you know how much was the wallet?
Mrs. OSWALD. No. ...
Mr. RANKIN. Did he take the money from the wallet from time to time?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, he generally kept the amount that he needed and put the rest in the wallet.

I would suggest that Oswald's actions were not out of the ordinary, except he had not visited for two pay periods. It seems he needed about $15. According to John that would cover him until the next Friday should he decide to bail on his attempt.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 01:02:02 PM by Colin Crow »