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Online John Mytton

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Re: Motive
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2019, 08:11:47 AM »
I can hear the violins playing.......any quotes from Marina?

Vincent talked with Marina on a number of occasions but I don't know if this was specifically discussed but this "4 days in November" section of Reclaiming History was thoroughly researched and let's be honest anyone who lives in the real world would know Oswald would hold on to his own money it's a friggin no brainer.
Btw can your ideas be supported with anything besides illogical speculation?

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2019, 08:13:21 AM »
Apparently he only left notes for her when his assassination attempts were unsuccessful.

She knew the drill from the first note and in addition she was living with someone in a safe ongoing environment. Try again.

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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2019, 08:18:44 AM »
Vincent talked with Marina on a number of occasions but I don't know if this was specifically discussed but this "4 days in November" section of Reclaiming History was thoroughly researched and let's be honest anyone who lives in the real world would know Oswald would hold on to his own money it's a friggin no brainer.
Btw can your ideas be supported with anything besides illogical speculation?

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Can you provide evidence of an occasion Oswald took all his money with him after visiting Marina at Ruth's? If not, your argument is nothing but self serving speculation. Why did he take $15 that day? Leave it all for Marina and the kids. No need if he shoots. No need if he doesn’t.

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« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2019, 10:28:27 AM »
Can you provide evidence of an occasion Oswald took all his money with him after visiting Marina at Ruth's? If not, your argument is nothing but self serving speculation. Why did he take $15 that day? Leave it all for Marina and the kids. No need if he shoots. No need if he doesn’t.

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Why did he take $15 that day?

If Oswald decides to not kill Kennedy then Oswald needs a weeks worth of money for the bus, for lunch and for dinner and perhaps to pay for his room.



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Leave it all for Marina and the kids.

See above.

Marina unhelpfully testifies that she never counted the money in the wallet in the wardrobe but she does say that Oswald did put money that he didn't need in the wallet, which could be anything and is equally unhelpful.
The main point from the following testimony is that Oswald was acting in a way that was unusual for him which while not conclusive is powerful evidence that he was considering an assassination.

Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, in my room at Ruth Paine’s there was a black wallet in a
wardrobe. Whenever Lee would come he would put money in there, but I never
counted it.
Mr. RANKIN. On the evening of November 21st, do you know how much was
the wallet?
Mrs. OSWALD. No. One detail that I remember was that he had asked me
whether I had bought some shoes for myself, and I said no, that I hadn’t had
any time. He asked me whether June needed anything and told me to buy
everything that I needed for myself and for June-and for the children.
This was rather unusual for him, that he would mention that first.
Mr. RANKIN. Did he take the money from the wallet from time to time?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, he generally kept the amount that he needed and put the
rest in the wallet.


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Re: Motive
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2019, 10:41:44 AM »

Mr. RANKIN. Did he take the money from the wallet from time to time?
Mrs. OSWALD. No, he generally kept the amount that he needed and put the
rest in the wallet.


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After all this......Marina answers the question.

Seems the potential assassin, after preparing the rifle for transport, felt the need to take $15.


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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2019, 10:48:49 AM »
If Oswald decides to not kill Kennedy then Oswald



If Oswald is not the assassin he "needs a weeks worth of money for the bus, for lunch and for dinner and perhaps to pay for his room."

If Oswald decides not to assassinate he "needs a weeks worth of money for the bus, for lunch and for dinner and perhaps to pay for his room" or he asks Buell for a lift back to Ruth's for the weekend.

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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2019, 10:52:30 AM »
After all this......Marina answers the question.

Seems the potential assassin, after preparing the rifle for transport, felt the need to take $15.

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After all this......Marina answers the question.

How is that an answer, she testifies that she doesn't know how much money was in the wallet and we don't know how much money Oswald thought he needed each week.

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Seems the potential assassin, after preparing the rifle for transport, felt the need to take $15.

Again as above, how the heck would Oswald know how much money he needed, if he can't complete the assassination for whatever reason how was he supposed to eat and travel with no money and don't forget that he already told Frazier that he wasn't going back to Ruth's place because presumably this weekend Oswald was going to be fitting curtain rods in his "rented" room which already happened to have curtain rods.

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« Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 11:00:23 AM by John Mytton »