CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?

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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #693 on: February 25, 2020, 11:15:43 PM »
Olay Walt, then if it were placed under the pallet the reason must be that in that location would be least probable place that rifle would be accidentally discovered before the shooting takes place

As opposed to having placed rifle between two vertical walls of boxes resting directly on the floor which might get moved individually as the workers were laying new sections of plywood floor prior to JFK motorcade arriving

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

If you are trying to set up a patsy to be suspected of having fired a rifle on that floor, placing a rifle with corroded barrel and misaligned scope seems a bit of a mistake imo

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #694 on: February 26, 2020, 12:54:24 AM »
Olay Walt, then if it were placed under the pallet the reason must be that in that location would be least probable place that rifle would be accidentally discovered before the shooting takes place

As opposed to having placed rifle between two vertical walls of boxes resting directly on the floor which might get moved individually as the workers were laying new sections of plywood floor prior to JFK motorcade arriving

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

If you are trying to set up a patsy to be suspected of having fired a rifle on that floor, placing a rifle with corroded barrel and misaligned scope seems a bit of a mistake imo

Still don’t quite follow The reason for conspirators to place a rifle that would appear to be unfired due to corrosion Inside the barrel and a misaligned scope

When the conspirators and the investigators are one and the same ....Who's going to argue with the vaunted  FBI???    The barrel could have had a spiders nest in it and the FBI would simple have lied and  still have declared it the murder weapon.....

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #695 on: February 26, 2020, 02:24:43 AM »
"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.

    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550


"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.


Firing a rifle with dirt or corrosion in the barrel is highly dangerous.....  However if there is dirt or corrosion in the barrel, a single projectile fired through the barrel will wipe out that dirt or corrosion....   Perhaps you've forgotten that The FBI said that the rifle had had THREE projectiles through the barrel....  That means the bore would have been clean....BUT ...The FBI would not test the rifle until it had been cleaned and oiled....  They weren't fools....They weren't about to fire that rifle with the dirt and corrosion in the barrel......   



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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #696 on: February 28, 2020, 03:51:40 AM »
"Corrosion inside the barrel" doesn't mean it was from rust and non-use.

    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550
Whoever wrote that must have had corrosion of the brain. Rust and debris in the barrel of CE 139 can only indicate that it had not been fired that day. Some other rifle must have been used to shoot from that building.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #697 on: February 28, 2020, 05:22:26 PM »
Whoever wrote that must have had corrosion of the brain. Rust and debris in the barrel of CE 139 can only indicate that it had not been fired that day. Some other rifle must have been used to shoot from that building.


    "They result from corrosion in the barrel due to the hot gases and possibly
     corrosive primer mixtures in the cartridges used, and primarily again they
     result from wear, that is, an eroding of the barrel through friction due to the
     firing of cartridges, bullets through it."
          -- Warren Report, USGPO, p550



Whoever wrote that must have had corrosion of the brain.

Actually the corrosion occurs because the the extremely hot gasses from the burning propellant vaporizes and protective oil in the barrel and leaves it susceptible  to the humidity in the air which combines with the corrosive film that was deposited by the burning propellant.   That corrosion occurs more rapidly in a high humidity area.   

Rust and debris in the barrel of CE 139 can only indicate that it had not been fired that day.

Bulls eye!!.....  You're absolutely right!

Some other rifle must have been used to shoot from that building.

The physical evidence reveals that there were no shots fired from the SE corner window.   The bullet that hit Connally  MAY?  have been fired from the west end of the TSBD...

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #698 on: February 28, 2020, 07:02:55 PM »
Who said there was "rust and debris in the barrel of CE 139"?

 The FBI....  They would not test the rifle until the bore had been cleaned and oiled.     They were smart enough to realize that test firing that carcano with the dirty corroded barrel could be very dangerous.   Because the bullet may become lodged in the barrel before it can move down the barrel....and then the pressure from the burning gasses causes extremely high pressure in the firing chamber which could rupture the receiver and seriously injure or kill the user.  They sent the carcano to their armory to have it cleaned, oile, and inspected before they tested it.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #699 on: February 28, 2020, 08:44:59 PM »
The FBI stated all this somewhere? Right?
Yeah...somewhere.