CBS News Inquiry 1967 - Warren Report (Dan Rather carries a rifle package)

[Colin Crow]

The circumference of the paper bag is about 16" (folded bag laid flat was about 8" across). The paper bag in the 3D depiction is well within the circumference.

This is some dispute as to which jacket Oswald wore to work, so a generic jacket-collar was used (the default white color doesn't mean I think he was wearing that color of jacket).

The area visible between the right armpit and right hand would have been totally filled with the paper bag color. According to the WCR, 34.8" is the length of the wooden stock.



I was able to get the end of the barrel through the detached front band, which rests at the bottom of the bag.



I have allowed room for the trigger assembly but have not drawn it yet on my Carcano model.

The oversized numerals are as they appear in SketchUp.

Well done Jerry. How was the top of the bag sealed? Square fold over or taped like Dan Rather's example?

[John Mytton]

Square fold over or taped like Dan Rather's example?

Ruth Paine testified that the blanket was secured by a number of parallel strings and it follows that Oswald after inserting his rifle into his open ended sack would use his same methodology to secure the top, why change an established winning formula?

As Jerry's graphic shows, only the top few inches needs to be tightly secured and it appears that in the following photo taken outside the Depository just a couple of hours later that the amount of scrunching on the end of Oswald's actual bag fits the bill perfectly. Case Closed. Time to get a life!






Mr. BALL. I have one question, Mr. Chief Justice. You used an expression there, that the bag appeared heavy.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You meant that there was some weight appeared to--
Mrs. RANDLE. To the bottom.
Mr. BALL. To the bottom?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes. It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand. It was more bulky toward the bottom than it was this way.
Mr. BELIN. Toward the top? More bulky toward the bottom than toward the top?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.



JohnM

[Colin Crow]

Ruth Paine testified that the blanket was secured by a number of parallel strings and it follows that Oswald after inserting his rifle into his open ended sack would use his same methodology to secure the top, why change an established winning formula?

As Jerry's graphic shows, only the top few inches needs to be tightly secured and it appears that in the following photo taken outside the Depository just a couple of hours later that the amount of scrunching on the end of Oswald's actual bag fits the bill perfectly. Case Closed. Time to get a life!






Mr. BALL. I have one question, Mr. Chief Justice. You used an expression there, that the bag appeared heavy.
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. You meant that there was some weight appeared to--
Mrs. RANDLE. To the bottom.
Mr. BALL. To the bottom?
Mrs. RANDLE. Yes. It tapered like this as he hugged it in his hand. It was more bulky toward the bottom than it was this way.
Mr. BELIN. Toward the top? More bulky toward the bottom than toward the top?
Mrs. RANDLE. That is right.



JohnM

So secured in some fashion. No need to cut with scissors as you previously speculated? Are you now going with disassembled? String or tape or just gravity? You don’t have a life John?

[Martin Weidmann]

Stop playing games. The alternative, indeed the overarching alternative, is abundantly clear.

No it isn't. It's something Bugs concoted based on no evidence whatsoever in an attempt to discredit a witness.

Considering alternatives for which there is at least some evidence is one thing. Considering a wacky theory with no evidence to support is something else entirely.

[John Mytton]

So secured in some fashion. No need to cut with scissors as you previously speculated? Are you now going with disassembled? String or tape or just gravity? You don’t have a life John?

Yawn, again with the 20 questions and even though every LNer answer I see here is practical and possible you just want to poo-poo everything and then ask the same 20 questions all over again ad nauseum, I don't know if you're insane or I'm more insane because I stick around?

So secured in some fashion.

Well the only place the rifle could be exposed when in a folded bag would be when the rifle was laying down on the back seat and unless Frazier drove like a maniac then the chances of exposure with the most open solution is fairly small.

No need to cut with scissors as you previously speculated?

Again, none of us are Oswald but I reckon if Oswald wanted to transport the assembled rifle in a taped off bag then he would have just cut off the top. And if the bag wasn't made long enough then it's perfectly feasible that he just tied the bag off. See I can't lose, all roads lead to Rome.

Are you now going with disassembled?

See above.

String or tape or just gravity?

Of course, any of the 3 could work.

String on a disassembled rifle wouldn't necessarily show any marks.
Tape on an assembled rifle could simply be cut off.
And since Oswald wasn't wielding the long bag like Excalibur and based on the evidence of Oswald holding the bag upright then a fold would be more than adequate.

You don’t have a life John?

Not lately, I'm recovering.

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

No it isn't. It's something Bugs concoted based on no evidence whatsoever in an attempt to discredit a witness.

Considering alternatives for which there is at least some evidence is one thing. Considering a wacky theory with no evidence to support is something else entirely.

What 'something' are you referring to, exactly? That Buell might have indeed decided to not take the chance of frying along with Dirty Harvey, or at least possibly facing a lifetime of genpop suspicion?

>>>@Newbies: Buell himself showed concern about a possible general outcry. He did in fact suffer somewhat for being the guy who drove the eventual prime suspect to the eventual scene of the crime. And it's not beyond the realm of possibility (unless you're a CTard) that Buell's sister would be somewhat reluctant to be known as the sister of the guy who drove the eventual prime suspect to the eventual scene of the crime.<<<

Tell us what's 'wacky' about self-preservation.

[Bill Chapman]

(@Martin)

Yawn, again with the 20 questions and even though every LNer answer I see here is practical and possible you just want to poo-poo everything and then ask the same 20 questions all over again ad nauseum, I don't know if you're insane or I'm more insane because I stick around?
>>> Your lengthy absence led me to believe you were either ill, or had finally had enough of these lunatics. In any case, at least one CTard took credit for your absence.

Well the only place the rifle could be exposed when in a folded bag would be when the rifle was laying down on the back seat and unless Frazier drove like a maniac then the chances of exposure with the most open solution is fairly small.
>>> Close. Buell wasn't driving like a maniac, he was driving a maniac.