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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Common Ground?
« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2019, 01:58:06 AM »
You must have a peculiar interpretation of innocence.  By that standard Hitler, Jack the Ripper, and John Wilkes Booth were are innocent if by that you mean they died before being convicted in a criminal trial. That is absurd.  A criminal trial is not like the hand of God deciding if someone committed an act or not.  Even a not guilty verdict doesn't mean the defendant is innocent.  Do you think there is any doubt that Ruby shot Oswald or that John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln simply because they died before they could be convicted?  Oswald killed JFK.  The fact that he died before he was convicted in a court doesn't negate the evidence that he was the assassin by even one iota.

The statement has a qualifier included, the word ?technically.?

Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2019, 11:14:08 PM »
You must have a peculiar interpretation of innocence.  By that standard Hitler, Jack the Ripper, and John Wilkes Booth were are innocent if by that you mean they died before being convicted in a criminal trial. That is absurd.  A criminal trial is not like the hand of God deciding if someone committed an act or not.  Even a not guilty verdict doesn't mean the defendant is innocent.  Do you think there is any doubt that Ruby shot Oswald or that John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln simply because they died before they could be convicted?  Oswald killed JFK.  The fact that he died before he was convicted in a court doesn't negate the evidence that he was the assassin by even one iota.

Comedy gold in bold. Yes, a person who has never cited one piece of supporting evidence for the claim that LHO killed JFK just declared it as a fact. Priceless.

Offline Rob Caprio

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« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2019, 11:16:43 PM »
Quote by Richard Smith
"We know John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln even though he was never convicted of that act.  To suggest he must be considered "innocent" because he was killed before getting a trial is false logic.  The same principle goes for Oswald."

Apples and oranges, Richard. We don't know that Oswald killed JFK, so the same principle doesn't go.

Ray, don't put facts in the way of Smith's delusions.

Offline Rob Caprio

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Re: Common Ground?
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2019, 11:26:45 PM »
What does this have to do with anything?

None of his posts have to do with anything. This is the logic used by the cover-up gang. JFK was sickly and would have dropped dead in a few years anyway, so why care about his assassination?

Offline Paul May

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Re: Common Ground?
« Reply #74 on: May 08, 2019, 01:39:36 AM »
Ray, don't put facts in the way of Smith's delusions.

Caprio using the word ?facts?. Seriously? Why don?t you and I debate the ?facts??  Up to it or will you run and hide once again?

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2019, 04:44:56 AM »
Caprio using the word ?facts?. Seriously? Why don?t you and I debate the ?facts??  Up to it or will you run and hide once again?
I don't think it's possible for you to know if someone is hiding when you yourself are hiding. You answer questions with questions which is another form of hiding. That would fit the profile of a headcase

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Re: Common Ground?
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2019, 01:29:59 PM »
Any question asked here has been asked and answered several thousand times before. Why the need to defend Caprio?  Who are u?