Photographic Proof John Templin's Standing Next To "Glasses Woman" In Betzner-3

[John Iacoletti]

Because that's the frame we're all familiar with, compliments of Robin Unger, who tried several years ago to set in stone the identities of the people in it, and got only about half of them right.

Says you.

Maybe you'll find one in which Templin and Brandt are playing hopscotch or something.

I?m still waiting for a coherent argument that these people are even named Templin and Brandt. Just because there?s a hat?

[Thomas Graves]

Says you.

I?m still waiting for a coherent argument that these people are even named Templin and Brandt. Just because there?s a hat?

Iacoletti,

Do you see two white guys standing together anywhere else on the north side of Elm Street, and at a point that could be even remotely called "halfway," and with the older of the two wearing a "fedora" hat?

-- MWT   

PS  Along the same lines, did you ever find (light-complected) Karan Hicks and Carol Reed "interspersed" with the non-South West Publishing Company employees in the crowd near the mythological "halfway point"? (Unless, of course, you agree with Westbrook that the dark-complected, poofed-up-black-hair gal "next to" the Stemmons Sign is, ".. uhh, probably Carol Reed," in which case you only need to find Hicks!).

LOL

[John Iacoletti]

Iacoletti,

You really don?t need to put my name in every post.
 

Do you see two white guys standing together anywhere else on the north side of Elm Street, and at a point that could be even remotely called "halfway," and with the older of the two wearing a "fedora" hat?

So many assumptions...

How do you know Templin and Brandt were white?
How do you know they were on the north side of Elm street?
How do you know they were at a point that could remotely be called halfway?
How do you know that hat man is older?
How do you know that hat man is wearing a fedora?

PS  Along the same lines, did you ever find (light-complected) Karan Hicks and Carol Reed "interspersed" with the non-South West Publishing Company employees in the crowd near the mythological "halfway point"? (Unless, of course, you agree with Westbrook that the dark-complected, poofed-up-black-hair gal "next to" the Stemmons Sign is, ".. uhh, probably Carol Reed", in which case you only need to find Hicks.)

From behind and 56 years later? 

[Thomas Graves]

You really don?t need to put my name in every post.
 
So many assumptions...

How do you know Templin and Brandt were white?
How do you know they were on the north side of Elm street?
How do you know they were at a point that could remotely be called halfway?
How do you know that hat man is older?
How do you know that hat man is wearing a fedora?

From behind and 56 years later? 

Iacoletti,

If Karen Westbrook, your only source regarding the identification of "Gloria Calvert" (sic) in Zapruder, could spot herself and "Calvert" and "uhh ... probably Carol Reed" 54 years after-the-fact by looking at herself and "Calvert" and probably Carol Reed from behind in one Zapruder frame, then maybe you can spot Hicks by looking at all the photos and films 56 years after-the-fact.

-- MWT   

[Thomas Graves]

You keep forgetting that Karen Westbrook:

- was there
- was good friends with Gloria Calvery and saw her every day
- also identified herself from the front in Willis 5 (or as you call it "Willis 3")

On the other hand, your only source regarding the identification of Gloria Calvery in Zapruder is:

Yeah, Karen Westbrook really "nailed it," didn't she?

Uhh ... to smiling and nodding (and prompting?) STEPHEN Fagin, while looking at "herself" from behind in the Zapruder frame and while "she" was wearing a hair-hiding headscarf and a figure-hiding raincoat, some fifty-four years after-the-fact.

Oh yeah, and from the minuscule Willis-5 Willis-3 images of, in reality, blue-headscarf-wearing Sharron Simmons, strawberry blondish-haired Gloria Holt, and self-described American Indian, Stella Mae Jacob.

In that equally great identification of herself in Willis-5 Willis-3, she was obviously confusing the very light blue headscarf she wore that day with Sharron Simmons' light blue one.

D'oh

-- MWT 

PS  Westbrook remembered her old buddy Gloria Calvery so incredibly well that she referred to her as "Gloria Calvert" (sic) at least once in that interview, IIRC.

[John Iacoletti]

Oh yeah, and from the minuscule Willis-5 Willis-3 images of, in reality, blue-headscarf-wearing Sharron Simmons, strawberry blondish-haired Gloria Holt, and self-described American Indian, Stella Mae Jacob.

It's not just people's names you chronically get wrong.  You can only see "blue-scarf-lady" in Willis FIVE.  And Simmons is SHARON.

In that equally great identification of herself in Willis-5 Willis-3, she was obviously confusing the very light blue headscarf she wore that day with Sharron Simmons' light blue one.

Too bad you don't actually know what color scarf Simmons was wearing.  Or how "light" Westbrook's scarf was.  You're just making it all up.

PS  Westbrook remembered her old buddy Gloria Calvery so incredibly well that she referred to her as "Gloria Calvert" (sic) at least once in that interview, IIRC.

Says the guy who knows these people so well that he calls them John Fagin, Sharron Simmons, etc.

[Thomas Graves]

It's not just people's names you chronically get wrong.  You can only see "blue-scarf-lady" in Willis FIVE.  And Simmons is SHARON.

Too bad you don't actually know what color scarf Simmons was wearing.  Or how "light" Westbrook's scarf was.  You're just making it all up.

Says the guy who knows these people so well that he calls them John Fagin, Sharron Simmons, etc.

Iacoletti,

Apples and Oranges, dude.

Mountains out of molehills.

But thanks for implying that my... gasp ... horrendous mistakes are as momentous (or as "grave," if you will) as Karen Westbrook's all-time xxxx-up in her Sixth Floor Museum interview has turned out to be.

-- MWT   

Speaking of mistakes, please tell us once again why you changed your mind about "Glasses Woman" in Betzner-3.

"Insufficient evidence upon blow-up," or some such thing?

LOL