The preponderance of the evidence

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2019, 10:58:29 AM »
Good one.

And Ruby should be celebrated by conspiracy-mongers everywhere for giving them something to live all these 56yrs

LHO was a habitual liar. He lied about things even when there was no reason to lie. So I am not sure that he would have cleared up much if he had survived.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2019, 04:21:42 PM »
LHO was a habitual liar. He lied about things even when there was no reason to lie. So I am not sure that he would have cleared up much if he had survived.

There's no reasonable argument that Lee Oswald did not lie....Nearly every human being does...   And Lee was a trained espionage  agent, whose very prerequisite is based on deception.    However being a liar does not mean the person is a murderer....  And with regard to your statement that he had no reason to lie. You can't possible know whether Lee had good sound logical reason to lie about something.    IMO the biggest liar of the case was J.C. Day, or Will Fritz....

I'm aware that many folks live in a fairy tale world where the good guys never lie and the bad guys are all liars....  Anybody who believes such nonsense should seek a psychiatrist ..... 
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2019, 05:49:34 PM »
LHO was a habitual liar. He lied about things even when there was no reason to lie. So I am not sure that he would have cleared up much if he had survived.

LHO was a habitual liar. He lied about things even when there was no reason to lie.

Knew him well, did you?

If not, stop making claims about him you haven't got any possibility of knowing for certain!
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2019, 06:57:05 PM »
LHO was a habitual liar. He lied about things even when there was no reason to lie.

Knew him well, did you?

If not, stop making claims about him you haven't got any possibility of knowing for certain!

Oh, so you think his name really was O.H. Lee? And that he didn?t lie to his landlady about his name?

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #88 on: April 02, 2019, 06:57:18 PM »
Many years ago I began pursuing my interest in the JFK assassination conspiracy theories by reading quite a few books by, you guessed it, conspiracy theorists. For a long time I was convinced that there just HAD to be a conspiracy. But there wasn't any conspiracy theory that had any credible evidence to support it. All there seemed to be was conjecture and innuendo. One book would claim that LBJ was behind the assassination, another book would claim JEH was the mastermind, and so on. I learned way more than I wanted to know about LBJ, JEH, the oil tycoons, etc. But no credible evidence that would support any of the theories. I was left with a big question mark asking which conspiracy theory was the right one. One day I decided to start fresh with an open mind. I decided that learning more about the evidence that the official investigation turned up was a good starting point. Because all I had learned about the evidence from all the conspiracy books was biased against the official investigation's findings and tried to discredit them. A look at the other side of the controversy (with an open mind) seemed to be the next logical step in my pursuit to know more. So I read the official report and a few books from authors who supported it. What I found was that the preponderance of the evidence points directly at LHO. This was more than just the conjecture and innuendo that I was used to seeing. The preponderance of the evidence is actually overwhelming. The arguments that try to discredit the evidence no longer made sense, but I still try to look for any evidence of a conspiracy with an open mind. That is why I continue to show up here from time to time.

It's totally fine to speculate. There's tons of Smoke and weird circumstances surrounding the JFK assassination.

I've come around to concluding that Oswald could not have been framed. He either acted alone or was part of a Conspiracy.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #89 on: April 02, 2019, 07:15:52 PM »
It's totally fine to speculate. There's tons of Smoke and weird circumstances surrounding the JFK assassination.

I've come around to concluding that Oswald could not have been framed. He either acted alone or was part of a Conspiracy.

Yes, speculation is only speculation though.


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Re: The preponderance of the evidence
« Reply #90 on: April 02, 2019, 07:18:15 PM »
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Oh, so you think his name really was O.H. Lee? And that he didn?t lie to his landlady about his name?

Oh, so you think his name really was O.H. Lee?

I hope you're sitting down because this will be shocking news to you....  Lee told Fritz right up front that he lived at a rooming hous at 1026 N. Beckley and he was registered there as O.H. Lee....   Fritz didn't learn that from "some officer out in the hall"....as he told the WC,...   He learned that from Lee Oswald....