BWF and LMR may not have been the only ones who saw LHO with a bag on 11/22/1963

[Alan Ford]

Did the bag contain curtain rods?
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm

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If the bag really contained curtain rods, where did the curtain rods come from and where did they go?

Already answered pages back!

1. They came from the Paine garage. They measured 27.5 inches long----just the length of the bag Mr Frazier and Ms Randle saw Mr Oswald with on the morning of 11/22.

2. They ended up in the Crime Scene Search Section being tested for Mr Oswald's fingerprints 8 days before the WC took 2 'undisturbed' curtain rods out of the Paine garage: go figure.

Ole Man McAdams ain't gonna get you outta this one, Mr Chapman! 

[Bill Chapman]

If that's what he indeed told Captain Fritz, then it has a simple explanation, which I've already given earlier in the thread. Do your homework, man! 

Give us a hint... if it's something about going out to buy his lunch (what he told Buell he was going to do) show us where and show us who saw him do so

[Alan Ford]

Give us a hint... if it's something about going out to buy his lunch (what he told Buell he was going to do) show us where and show us who saw him do so

He understood by now how he had been set up, and so denied having brought a bulky package to work that day.

Not complicated! 

[Richard Smith]

Which means you need to explain how there can have been 2 curtain rods in the DPD Crime Scene Search Section between 15 March and 24 March.

Paine makes reference to them in her earlier testimony. They are taken from her garage and tested for Oswald's prints.  They are returned to the garage.  Not terribly complicated.  What are you suggesting?  That they were found in the TSBD, held somewhere until March '64, and then for some inexplicable reason brought to light by the very folks trying to frame Oswald by claiming he had no curtain rods?  Why not just quietly toss them?  LOL. 

[Richard Smith]

He understood by now how he had been set up, and so denied having brought a bulky package to work that day.

Not complicated! 

So he is lying now?  Why would Oswald deny carrying a bag that contained only his lunch and curtain rods?  If innocent, he would be screaming from the roof tops for someone to find it.  It would have been exculpatory.   Instead he lies about the bag knowing that Frazier saw him carry it with all the implications of a lie in that context?  Whew.  And why would he lie that morning - before the assassination - by telling Frazier that he did not have his lunch?   Good grief.

[Bill Chapman]

Already answered pages back!

1. They came from the Paine garage. They measured 27.5 inches long----just the length of the bag Mr Frazier and Ms Randle saw Mr Oswald with on the morning of 11/22.

2. They ended up in the Crime Scene Search Section being tested for Mr Oswald's fingerprints 8 days before the WC took 2 'undisturbed' curtain rods out of the Paine garage: go figure.

Ole Man McAdams ain't gonna get you outta this one, Mr Chapman! 

You eliminated this part from my post. Kind of inconvenient, huh..

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When questioned by police officers after his arrest, Oswald told them that he did not bring a long bag to work and the only thing he brought to work was a bag lunch (4H217-8). Frazier testified that Oswald did not bring a lunch to work the day of the assassination. He even asked Oswald where his lunch was, since Oswald always brought a lunch, and Oswald told him [Buell] he was going to buy his lunch that day (2H228). Oswald lied about the lunch bag when there was little reason to do so. Oswald lied about bringing a long package, even when the police officers suggested it contained curtain rods (7H305, 4H218).

[Alan Ford]

Paine makes reference to them in her earlier testimony. They are taken from her garage and tested for Oswald's prints.

 

The relevant Paine testimony comes on 19 March, 4 days after the curtain rods were submitted to the Crime Scene Search Section for fingerprinting!

The entire premise of the March 23 inspection in situ of the curtain rods is that they have not left her garage at any time since months before the assassination!

And why on earth would curtain rods found in the Paine garage be tested for Mr Oswald's prints? The very fact that they had been found there would have been ample proof on its own that Mr Oswald hadn't brought them to work on the morning of the assassination! 

[Alan Ford]

So he is lying now?

Either Captain Fritz is lying (he is good at that), or Mr Oswald is lying (ditto)!

If the latter, then it is because Mr Oswald realises he has been stitched up and has calculated that his best defence for now is to deny having brought a bulky package to work.

You want to force into his hands on the morning of 11/22 a bag much longer than that seen by Mr Frazier and Ms Randle.

I--------on the other hand--------believe he had in his hands a bag perfectly consistent with the bag seen by those two witnesses.

That's just one of the several reasons why I'm winning here, and you and your pals are losing!