Firearms experts who say; ?I can't do it so it can't be done?, cannot be trusted

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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The carcano is a mere 40 inches long... so  a man sitting on a box four feet back from the wall and using the stack of Rolling Readers as a rifle rest could not have had the muzzle out of the window.

Witnesses report a man with a rifle much closer to the window than 4 feet away.

Do you have evidence that the 6th floor shooter was 4 feet back from the window?

Nearly every piece of evidence can be shown to be false.

Aha... "nearly every piece of evidence can be shown to be false". Now we're getting somewhere!!!

That means that you believe some pieces of evidence are not false. List them in your reply.


Here ya go Mr Lidell.....Solid evidence that Lee Oswald was framed....

https://zmail04-mta.peak.org/service/home/~/?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=6209&part=2

Notice the floor support beams that are 12.5 feet from the north wall.....  there are two of the pillars on the south side of the service elevators and another near the top of the stairs. They are all in a row at 12.5 feet from the   north wall.  The row of boxes that formed the south wall of the aisle that led to the stairs were in line with the floor support pillars.  ( IOW the row of boxes were about two feet from the top of the stairs) So the south side of that row of boxes would have been about 13 feet from the North wall ...But Detective Studebaker measured the distance from the north wall to the rifle at 15 feet 4 inches....IOW The rifle was about 3 feet south of the aisle that Lee Oswald was imagined to have dashed through as he raced to the stairs.... 

There is NO WAY that Lee could have reached across that gap and placed the rifle on the floor behind a stack of boxes that was over 15 feet from the north wall and then stacked boxes of books over the top of the opening as Boone described the location of the rifle.   

This is solid proof that LBJ's cover up committee deceived us and created false evidence .....
« Last Edit: March 12, 2019, 03:31:31 PM by Walt Cakebread »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Here ya go Mr Lidell.....Solid evidence that Lee Oswald was framed....

https://zmail04-mta.peak.org/service/home/~/?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=6209&part=2

Your link doesn't work, Walt.  Is that your personal email inbox or something?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Your link doesn't work, Walt.  Is that your personal email inbox or something?

Sorry.... Perhaps you can find Studebaker's map of the sixth floor on line.....  I know that it's been posted here in the past.   I believe by Jerry Organ.

Studebaker's map is also printed on page 146 of 1st Day Evidence
« Last Edit: March 13, 2019, 07:10:00 PM by Walt Cakebread »

Offline Peter Kleinschmidt

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The planted Carcano had a scope adjusted for a left-handed shooter, but Oswald was right-handed???

The scope was offset to the left because of the bolt-action which was on top of the rifle. A scope mounted on the right of the rifle would interfere with the movement of the bolt when ejecting a spent cartridge and loading a new one.

There's no proof that the Carcano was planted.

Questions for you who believes a Carcano was planted on the 6th floor of the TSBD:

-- Who planted the Carcano in the TSBD?

-- When was the Carcano planted in the TSBD?

The shims were lost when Lt. Carl Day of the Crime Lab disassembled the Carcano looking for "prints"?
Here, I copied something you said:

"a Carcano was planted on the 6th floor of the TSBD"


I am happy you are finally are coming around to believe a Carcano was planted. At least that is the way it reads, right?


Lt. Day "of the Crime Lab"?
Really, is that an explanation? Prof. Ross, you are full of excuses.
Maybe your buddy, Seymour could say it was an "honest mistake".
Disassembled? Was he looking for prints underneath something? Is that normal? Maybe he was modifying it. But why?
Do you think he wanted the shims to be lost? Very peculiar activity, but Prof. Ross thinks this is normal
« Last Edit: March 14, 2019, 05:24:08 AM by Peter Kleinschmidt »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Your link doesn't work, Walt.  Is that your personal email inbox or something?

I've been searching for the map that Studebaker created of the sixth floor of the TSBD...  It's been posted in the forum a couple of times. 

I stumbled across something that verifies Studebaker's measurement of 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall as the location where the rifle was hidden beneath a pallet with boxes of books stacked on that pallet.     In vol XXI page 512

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0268b.htm 

The rifle is recorded as having been found 8 feet from the stairs..... 

Eight feet from the stairs would be 16 feet from the north wall....  And Studebaker measured the actual distance as 15 feet 4 inches.... So the guestimate of eight feet from the stairs to the rifle is reasonably accurate for a guess.   The fake "In Situ" photos of the rifle show it to be about 3 feet from the stairs.  There's no way anybody could misjudge 8 feet for 3 feet....     


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I've been searching for the map that Studebaker created of the sixth floor of the TSBD...  It's been posted in the forum a couple of times. 

I stumbled across something that verifies Studebaker's measurement of 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall as the location where the rifle was hidden beneath a pallet with boxes of books stacked on that pallet.     In vol XXI page 512

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0268b.htm 

The rifle is recorded as having been found 8 feet from the stairs..... 

Eight feet from the stairs would be 16 feet from the north wall....  And Studebaker measured the actual distance as 15 feet 4 inches.... So the guestimate of eight feet from the stairs to the rifle is reasonably accurate for a guess.   The fake "In Situ" photos of the rifle show it to be about 3 feet from the stairs.  There's no way anybody could misjudge 8 feet for 3 feet....     

Mr. SIMS. Well, someone then hollered--we started a search of the sixth floor then, going from east to west--all the officers, and someone had found the rifle over by the stairway.
Mr. BALL. That would be in what corner of the building?
Mr. SIMS. That would be in actually the northwest corner of the building.
Mr. BALL. And what happened then?
Mr. SIMS. Then, we went over to where the rifle was found.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the rifle?
Mr. SIMS. Yes; I saw the rifle.
Mr. BALL. Where was the rifle?
Mr. SIMS. It was laying there near a stairway, partially covered by some paper.

Notice that Sims reference for the location of the rifle as 8 feet from the stairs has been deleted .

Sims said that the gun was laying on the floor ( not jammed between boxes )  and it was about 5 feet from the west wall and about 8 feet from the stairway.

The liars swore that the in situ photo ( the fake)  was taken before anything was moved....So where's the paper that was partially covering the rifle?
And why does the in situ photo ( the fake) show that the rifle is NOT laying on the floor and it is about three feet from the stairs???
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Mr. SIMS. Well, someone then hollered--we started a search of the sixth floor then, going from east to west--all the officers, and someone had found the rifle over by the stairway.
Mr. BALL. That would be in what corner of the building?
Mr. SIMS. That would be in actually the northwest corner of the building.
Mr. BALL. And what happened then?
Mr. SIMS. Then, we went over to where the rifle was found.
Mr. BALL. Did you see the rifle?
Mr. SIMS. Yes; I saw the rifle.
Mr. BALL. Where was the rifle?
Mr. SIMS. It was laying there near a stairway, partially covered by some paper.

Notice that Sims reference for the location of the rifle as 8 feet from the stairs has been deleted .

Sims said that the gun was laying on the floor ( not jammed between boxes )  and it was about 5 feet from the west wall and about 8 feet from the stairway.

The liars swore that the in situ photo ( the fake)  was taken before anything was moved....So where's the paper that was partially covering the rifle?
And why does the in situ photo ( the fake) show that the rifle is NOT laying on the floor and it is about three feet from the stairs???

Mr. BALL - What happened then?
Mr. BOONE - Some of the other officers came over to look at it. I told them to stand back, not to get around close, they might want to take prints of some of the boxes, and not touch the rifle. And at that time Captain Fritz and an ID man came over. I believe the ID man's name was Lieutenant Day--I am not sure. They came over and the weapon was photographed as it lay. And at that time Captain Fritz picked it up by the strap, and it was removed from the place where it was. (Here, Boone's memory failed him as it was Day who picked up the rifle by the strap)
Mr. BALL - You saw them take the photograph?
Mr. BOONE - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Were you alone at that time?
Mr. BOONE - There was an Officer Weitzman, I believe. He is a deputy constable.
Mr. BALL - Where was the rifle located on the floor, general location?
Mr. BOONE - Well, it was almost--the stairwell is in the corner of the building, something like this, and there is a wall coming up here, making one side of the stairwell with the building acting as the other two sides. And from that, it was almost directly in front or about 8 feet south, I guess, it would be, from that partition wall that made up the stairwell.

Sims said that he rifle was about 8 feet from the stairs, and Boone said the rifle was about 8 feet from the stairs , and Studebaker measured the distance from the rifle to the stairs and he found the distance to be 15 feet  4 inches....
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