Oswald's Rifle Capability

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2019, 07:38:49 PM »
A clue that the rifle that was found was not the same rifle that was sticking out the window. I only see 4 inches of barrel on the MC before the wooden stock.
James Worrells gave a lengthy testimony of a man he saw run out the back door of the TSBD....wearing a sport jacket ... running north on Houston and then east on Pacific.

No assassin in his right mind would risk running away from the scene....Nothing would drawn attention to him quicker than running away.....   If there had been a shooter in the TSBD ( which there wasn't) he would NOT have dashed away from the scene...

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2019, 09:05:12 PM »
No assassin in his right mind would risk running away from the scene....Nothing would drawn attention to him quicker than running away.....   If there had been a shooter in the TSBD ( which there wasn't) he would NOT have dashed away from the scene...


No Assassin in his right mind would cramp himself into that SN and arrange boxes that only hinder him taking a good firing position.

No Assassin in their right mind would stick his rifle so far out the window that its easily seen. What is amazing is that MORE people did not see the rifle in the window. Withdrew the rifle so slowly that Bob Jackson, and Malcolm Couch saw it. That's not an Assassin in his right mind, for sure.

However, if its a conspirator who is trying make it APPEAR like the person who is doing the shooting is not in their right mind, then it might be a reason to do this crazy method, including using rifle with misaligned scope, and then hiding it in the boxes. Its MEANT to create the ILLUSION the gunman must be crazy: Ie: Exactly that "Crazy Defector Marxist Oswald".
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2019, 02:20:02 AM »
 
No assassin in his right mind would risk running away from the scene....Nothing would drawn attention to him quicker than running away..... 
   If Worrell was correct...whoever it was got away clean anyway, and he [a kid at the time] was the only one who glimpsed it?
However, there is this FBI report [3 pages]----  https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11575#relPageId=239&tab=page
 

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OSWALD'S RIFLE CAPABILITY
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2019, 11:55:57 PM »
 George DeMohrenschildt wrote that Oswald owned a Beretta [model not specified]   

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Re: OSWALD'S RIFLE CAPABILITY
« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2019, 11:46:52 PM »
George DeMohrenschildt wrote that Oswald owned a Beretta [model not specified]

George De M also wrote a manuscript entitled "I'm Just A Patsy" , didn't he?    If anybody would have known that Lee was just a Patsy...It would have been George.

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2019, 11:59:01 PM »
    also author=Bill Chapman link=topic=1745.msg45762#msg45762 date=1551248661]
Yet you believe her [he means Marina's] HCSA testimony it seems. How convenient. 
Must have pulled that one out of his backside...I never wrote any such thing.
For the know-nothings that believe in the gunman-Oswald only let me square you away. You obviously know nothing about rifles ..nothing about shooting them and nothing about the military. All U S Marine recruits are required to pass a minimum  Marksman rating..no exceptions.
That means dedicated time at the range day after day until they get it right. The drill instructor will see that they get it right. They will instruct them with vigor. If a Marine recruit has not qualified by the appropriate time they will stay at the range until midnight with a flashlight in their mouth if necessary to pass rifle certification. Any testimony about Oswald's lax rifle performance or disinterest was ignored. Oswald was not infantry..he was assigned to radar school.
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During one of his leaves from the Marines, Oswald hunted with his brother Robert, using a .22 caliber bolt-action rifle belonging either to Robert or Robert's in-laws.

   Replied to umpteen times---so what? This made him a killer? There was another friend shooting with them. I understand Oswald hit nothing or at least conspired to assassinate a rabbit using triangulated rifle fire.
All of this speculation about Oswald's rifle capability is a red herring.  All of the evidence found indicated that it was Oswald alone who shot and killed JFK.  NO OTHER SUSPECT HAS BEEN FOUND WHO COULD HAVE BEEN THE SHOOTER! 
Yawn. No other suspect was ever sought. Try again.
 

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Re: Oswald's Rifle Capability
« Reply #69 on: March 17, 2019, 01:26:38 AM »
Must have pulled that one out of his backside...I never wrote any such thing.
For the know-nothings that believe in the gunman-Oswald only let me square you away. You obviously know nothing about rifles ..nothing about shooting them and nothing about the military. All U S Marine recruits are required to pass a minimum  Marksman rating..no exceptions.
That means dedicated time at the range day after day until they get it right. The drill instructor will see that they get it right. They will instruct them with vigor. If a Marine recruit has not qualified by the appropriate time they will stay at the range until midnight with a flashlight in their mouth if necessary to pass rifle certification. Any testimony about Oswald's lax rifle performance or disinterest was ignored. Oswald was not infantry..he was assigned to radar school. 
   Replied to umpteen times---so what? This made him a killer? There was another friend shooting with them. I understand Oswald hit nothing or at least conspired to assassinate a rabbit using triangulated rifle fire. Yawn. No other suspect was ever sought. Try again.

For the know-nothings that believe in the gunman-Oswald only let me square you away. You obviously know nothing about rifles ..nothing about shooting them and nothing about the military. All U S Marine recruits are required to pass a minimum  Marksman rating..no exceptions.
That means dedicated time at the range day after day until they get it right. The drill instructor will see that they get it right. They will instruct them with vigor.

When Lee was a recruit, he trained with one of the finest rifles in the world... The semi-automatic M-1 Garand ....  A rifle that when placed in the hands of an Expert From Germany ( for example)  who may have been a sharpshooter with a Mauser ...would still might not be qualified as a sharpshooter with the M-1.   

Simply because a man qualifies well with one rifle does not mean that he can fire any rifle in the world with equal precision.

And One of the poorest rifles for rapid fire work is the Mannlicher Carcano. 

But the no nothings don't know these simple facts....  Thet are so stupid that they believe that Lee Oswald could have picked up that rusty old carcano with the scope mounted askew and knocked the eye out of a fly at 100 yards...   PATHETIC!