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Oswald's Rifle Capability
Zeon Mason:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on February 25, 2019, 08:19:08 PM ---Oswald didn't have the option of working the bolt repeatedly just before shooting, because he is in the sniper nest by 12:24
No , That's not correct.....Lee was in the first floor lunchroom at about 12:26 whe Jarman and Norman passed by on their way to the fifth floor....
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barring the random coincidental selection of Norman and Jarman by Oswald as probable, then we are left with where Oswald could have seen or heard Norman and Jarman, IF Oswald were the shooter AND also, able to get into the snipers nest by 12:24 without being seen by Bonnie Ray Williams leaving from that window by 12:22, otherwise, the box cannot be placed in the window by 12:24 unless BRW placed it, which is highly NOT probable.
The only place remotely probable for Oswald to be hiding, to be able to both hear Norman and Jarman coming up the staircase, and also see or hear BRW using the elevator and going down to 5th floor, is that Oswald hides on the mid level of the 6th floor staircase going up to the 7th floor.
He could have heard Norman and Jarman on the staircase one level below,, and he could hear and possibly see thru the elevator shaft, BRW using the East elevator.
But this would require Norman and Jarman be AT their windows by 12:20, and BRW joining them as Jarman said "several minutes later, at approx 12:23. so as to give Oswald at least 1 minute to cross over the 6th floor and put the box in the SE 6th floor window ledge by 12:24, just before the Bronson film begins.
But even Jarman and Normans LATEST estimate of their STARTING to leave from front of the TSBD is 12:20, so this makes it nearly impossible for the above "Oswald hiding" scenario.
Zeon Mason:
--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on February 25, 2019, 09:52:16 PM ---http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/andrews.htm
Oswald what now? Practiced working the bolt while aiming at the cuckoo in the clock? :D
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This is why the CBS shooter trial is total garbage, because they were allowed to work the bolt, to be in position BEFOREHAND and knew the track of the target. They didn't have a tree in the way either. The target was red on a black background and they couldsee the line of the track too.
PLUS, they let them USE an ALIGNED scope :D
Bill Chapman:
--- Quote from: Jerry Freeman on February 25, 2019, 09:52:16 PM ---http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/andrews.htm
Oswald what now? Practiced working the bolt while aiming at the cuckoo in the clock? :D
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Like Tim has pointed out re Ventura, too bad for JFK that this guy Andrews wasn't the one firing at him that day.
Bill Chapman:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on February 25, 2019, 10:18:19 PM ---
This is why the CBS shooter trial is total garbage, because they were allowed to work the bolt, to be in position BEFOREHAND and knew the track of the target. They didn't have a tree in the way either. The target was red on a black background and they couldsee the line of the track too.
PLUS, they let them USE an ALIGNED scope :D
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Are you saying you know that Oswald's scope was misaligned during the shooting...?
Zeon Mason:
--- Quote from: Bill Chapman on February 25, 2019, 10:52:29 PM ---Are you saying you know that Oswald's scope was misaligned during the shooting...?
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Im going on the fact that the only way they could align the scope for elevation was to unsrew the mount itself and insert a shim and then rescrew the mount at a lsightly different angle.
IDK if you can physically damage a scope to only cause elevation mis alignment so bad that it requires adding a shim, but not cause any damage to horizontal alignment and do this in the 30 sec after the shooting, while also wiping prints off with a shirt or rag, and also while running with rifle acroos the floor at 10 ft per sec
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