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So when does Oswald's own actions end and the framing of a patsy begins?
Larry Baldwin:
--- Quote from: Dan DAlimonte on February 01, 2018, 08:28:33 PM ---Hey, Larry. The interview with Life took place when Oswald was still alive.
So in essence, Oswald did not go home that Thursday and therefore couldn't have
smuggled in a rifle on Friday morning. This means that any witness who testified
that he did go home was coerced to lie about it. Which is easier to believe - she
left out that Thursday visit or that happier visit - the weekend before last - was indeed the
last time she saw her husband.
Of course, if he didn't go home ... this means the planners of his patsy hood had
Oswald already implicated whether he came from Irving or from his rooming house.
So why coerce people who could eventually tell the truth about the matter when they could
have said - it was his rifle so he must have somehow smuggled it in before the President came.
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I finally read it. However, their are no direct quotes from Marina stating that the weekend prior to the assassination was the last time that she saw Lee. It is the journalist telling the story, not Marina.
Dan DAlimonte:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on February 01, 2018, 08:32:13 PM ---Good point. Both Marina and Frazier have freely expressed doubts about Oswald's guilt. But we must believe they are still too scared to set the record straight by confirming that Oswald didn't go to Irving on Thursday. LOL I thought I had heard it all by now from CTers but that one is a real whopper. Conspiracy theory in this case is, at its core, a child-like faith that anyone who provides evidence of Oswald's guilt is suspect and a liar. Even if these same people are relied upon in other instances to support his innocence. Like Frazier and his two-foot long bag. Imagine the plan behind that one in this context. They get Frazier to lie about Oswald going to Irving and carrying a long bag to frame Oswald but then he won't confirm that the bag (which would not have existed at all if Oswald didn't actually make that trip) was long enough to carry the rifle. The entire intent of this fabrication. That is fall on the ground laughing material.
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I agree. This is the first assassination of a political figure that I know of, where two targets
had to be in place at the same time
.
Yes - we see the President approaching. There is no bubble top on the limo and no SS
on the back bumper. Is it a go?
That depends - Is the patsy in place? Is the evidence to frame the patsy in place, as well?
Well, the evidence is planted but last night the patsy was struck with a bowel disorder.
He's in the hospital.
Do it anyway ... We'll still make him look like he did it.
Michael O'Brian:
--- Quote from: Larry Baldwin on February 01, 2018, 08:33:26 PM ---I finally read it. However, their are no direct quotes from Marina stating that the weekend prior to the assassination was the last time that she saw Lee. It is the journalist telling the story, not Marina.
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He told Marina that soon they could go and get a new home together, this does not sound like the same guy who left his wedding ring behind and killed the POTUS because his wife would not reconcile
John Anderson:
If coercing people was so easy why is the evidence such a shambles? Surely Frazier and sister would have been adamant the bag was 3 feet long. Marina would confirm she saw the paper and tape the night before and Ruth Paine saw Oswald leaving the garage at 1am with a screw driver and scissors. A few spare 6.5 mm rounds lying around would have helped as well.
Why would so many people be allowed in the trauma room or at the autopsy if they were covering anything up? Two pathologists and a technician or two in a private setting would be the preferred course of action. Room protected from outside by the secret service so the pathologists could bash the head in with a hammer, destroying unwanted evidence. Why didn't those easily coerced people plant numerous clear finger prints from Oswald all over the rifle, the bag, the boxes or Tippits car?
Why didn't they easily coerce witnesses to testify they saw Oswald and only Oswald shooting from the 6th floor window? Why didn't they just sew things thing up tight right from the offset? Lets not forget about the unspoken witnesses. Those who would have seen Oswald somewhere else that Thursday night and Friday morning if he wasn't at the Paines. They would need to be coerced easily as well.
Larry Baldwin:
--- Quote from: Michael O'Brian on February 01, 2018, 09:48:21 PM ---He told Marina that soon they could go and get a new home together, this does not sound like the same guy who left his wedding ring behind and killed the POTUS because his wife would not reconcile
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Once again, we have a journalist who may or may not have reported correctly on dates and we have Marina who changed her story many times. It is simply not definitive enough for me.
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