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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #128 on: January 30, 2019, 09:13:24 PM »
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In order to tell whether it is in the bone, you need both posterior/anterior and lateral views. 

The preoperative lateral view of the wrist shows the wrist fragments a short distance from the bone, so you are right about that. 

But the xrays of the thigh show the small fragment over the bone in both lateral and posterior/anterior views:



From HSCA Report, Volume VII:

(409) Dr. Reynolds' report on Governor Connally's X-rays describes the X-ray of the left femur and left lower leg:

Film of the shaft of the left femur and of the left lower leg reveals no fracture in this area. A tiny metallic fragment is seen in the lower medial aspect of the thigh, in the subcutaneous fat. (82)

FIGURE 43. Photograph of a LogEtronic enhancement of a thigh X-ray, showing the location of the missile fragment in the subcutaneous fat.
FIGURE 44.--Photograph of a LogEtronic enhancement of a thigh X-ray, showing the location of the missile fragment in the subcutaneous fat.

(410) On November 29, 1963, Dr. Reynolds prepared a supplementary X-ray report which further characterizes the shadows within the thigh:

AP (anterior-posterior) and lateral films of the digital portion of the left thigh were obtained and include the distal portion of the shaft and the region of the knee. One film is in the AP projection and the other the lateral projection with the direction of the beam from roedial to lateral and the film lying adjacent to the lateral aspect of the thigh. fractures are seen. A few punctuate and linear densities are seen on the film but these are inconsistent, and appear on one and not the other and therefore interpreted as artifacts. There is, however, one density which remains constant on both films and appears to lie beneath the skin of the region of the subcutaneous fat in the roedial aspect of the thigh. By measurement on the films, without correction for target film distance and object film distance, this small density lies 15.2 centimeters above the distal end of the medial femoral condyle on the AP film and, on this film, lies 8 millimeters beneath the external surface of the skin. It is 6.25 centimeters medial to the femoral shaft. On the lateral film, the center of this small metallic density lies 15 centimeters above the distal end of the roedial femoral condyle. It lies 4.9 centimeters posterior to the skin of the anterior surface of the thigh and it is superimposed on the shaft of the femur. In relation to the femur, the density is superimposed on a point 1.5 centimeters posterior to the exterior of the anterior cortex. The shape of this density is irregular but is roughly oval. Precise measurements are difficult but it is estimated that the greatest length in the AP projection is about 3.5 millimeters and the greatest width about 1.3 millimeters. Measurements of the densities in the lateral projection reveal the greatest length to be about 2 millimeters and the greatest width to be about 1.5 millimeters. The long axis of the metallic object is oriented generally along the axis of the femur. (83)

(411)The panel concurs with Dr. Reynolds' opinion that the 2-millimeter density is a missile fragment that was just under the skin and was not deep within the thigh in the femur bone, as described in the Warren Commission Report. The panel believes the density in the femur bone was erroneously described and is an artifact in the X-ray film and not a bullet fragment.

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #129 on: January 30, 2019, 09:59:26 PM »
@8:28 - 9:15 Hoover tells LBJ three bullets were recovered. Splinters from 2 and a whole bullet. They were connected to the TSBD Carcano by the FBI. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's 3 bullets impacting inside the Limo. The 2 splintered bullets plus the intact "Magic Bullet". With what is seen on the Z-film and what is known about how fast the Carcano could be fired that is an impossibility.

Speculating here: The bullet + (splinters) tying the TSBD Carcano and Ozzie to JFK's murder were planted before the Z-film and/or it's implications were known. Thus the disconnect from the official narrative and the need for the "Magic Bullet" created by the "Cover-up Commission"(WC).

LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover, 11/29/63. 1:40P

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #130 on: January 30, 2019, 10:25:41 PM »
@8:28 - 9:15 Hoover tells LBJ three bullets were recovered. Splinters from 2 and a whole bullet. They were connected to the TSBD Carcano by the FBI. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's 3 bullets impacting inside the Limo. The 2 splintered bullets plus the intact "Magic Bullet". With what is seen on the Z-film and what is known about how fast the Carcano could be fired that is an impossibility.

LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover, 11/29/63. 1:40P


With what is seen on the Z-film and what is known about how fast the Carcano could be fired that is an impossibility.


Excellent observation, Mr Craig.....   

LOOK at the book that is being presented as the Warren Report......   Has anybody ever seen a copy of the WR that thick??

Clearly they used some thick book as a stage prop, to fool us pissants into believing millions of our tax dollars hadn't been wasted on a frivolous pursuit, or a methodical cover up that benefited the maniacal brigand holding the tome. 

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #131 on: January 30, 2019, 10:52:31 PM »
@8:28 - 9:15 Hoover tells LBJ three bullets were recovered. Splinters from 2 and a whole bullet. They were connected to the TSBD Carcano by the FBI. Correct me if I'm wrong, that's 3 bullets impacting inside the Limo. The 2 splintered bullets plus the intact "Magic Bullet". With what is seen on the Z-film and what is known about how fast the Carcano could be fired that is an impossibility.

Speculating here: The bullet + (splinters) tying the TSBD Carcano and Ozzie to JFK's murder were planted before the Z-film and/or it's implications were known. Thus the disconnect from the official narrative and the need for the "Magic Bullet" created by the "Cover-up Commission"(WC).

CE399 was in the hands of Officer Todd by the evening of 22Nov63, before the FBI had done a full inspection of the limo.  How did the conspirators know that the fragments found in the car would not account for all three bullets fired?

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #132 on: January 31, 2019, 12:37:28 AM »
CE399 was in the hands of Officer Todd by the evening of 22Nov63, before the FBI had done a full inspection of the limo.  How did the conspirators know that the fragments found in the car would not account for all three bullets fired?

The conspirators knew. They were good. They were the best.  ;D

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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #133 on: January 31, 2019, 01:55:23 AM »
CE399 was in the hands of Officer Todd by the evening of 22Nov63, before the FBI had done a full inspection of the limo.  How did the conspirators know that the fragments found in the car would not account for all three bullets fired?

Because they were conspiring. The Carcano and 3 empty hulls found in the alleged sniper's nest. You think more than 3 bullets or any that didn't match the Carcano would be found?

Here's Hoover telling LBJ that the bullet slivers found in the limo aren't very valuable for identification and they'll test the intact bullet with the TSBD Carcano after they finish testing it for fingerprints. Yet he's already telling LBJ that it "seems almost impossible to think that for twenty-one dollars you could kill the President of the United States." Before the bullets and the gun have been linked, Ozzie's fate was a foregone conclusion.

11/23/63
J. Edgar Hoover:
I just wanted to let you know of a development which I think is very important in connection with this case -
this man in Dallas (Lee Harvey Oswald). We, of course, charged him with the murder of the President. The evidence that they
have at the present time is not very, very strong. We have just discovered the place where the gun was purchased and the shipment
of the gun from Chicago to Dallas, to a post office box in Dallas, to a man - no, to a woman by the name of "A. Hidell."... We
had it flown up last night, and our laboratory here is making an examination of it.

Lyndon B. Johnson: Yes, I told the Secret Service to see that that got taken care of.

J. Edgar Hoover: That's right. We have the gun and we have the bullet. There was only one full bullet that was found. That was on
the stretcher that the President was on. It apparently had fallen out when they massaged his heart, and we have that one. We have
what we call slivers, which are not very valuable in the identification. As soon as we finish the testing of the gun for fingerprints
... we will then be able to test the one bullet we have with the gun.
But the important thing is that this gun was bought in Chicago
on a money order. Cost twenty-one dollars, and it seems almost impossible to think that for twenty-one dollars you could kill the
President of the United States.
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Re: Lack Of Damage To CE-399
« Reply #134 on: January 31, 2019, 02:00:17 AM »
The conspirators knew. They were good. They were the best.  ;D




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