Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #476 on: April 02, 2020, 04:22:19 PM »
11/23/63
Lyndon B. Johnson: Have you established any more about the visit to the Soviet embassy in Mexico in September?

J. Edgar Hoover: No, that's one angle that's very confusing, for this reason - we have up here the tape and
the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy, using Oswald's name. That picture and the tape do not correspond
to this man's voice, nor to his appearance.
In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the
Soviet embassy down there. We do have a copy of a letter which was written by Oswald to the Soviet embassy here in
Washington, inquiring as well as complaining about the harassment of his wife and the questioning of his wife by the FBI.
Now, of course, that letter information - we process all mail that goes to the Soviet embassy. It's a very secret operation.
No mail is delivered to the embassy without being examined and opened by us, so that we know what they receive... The case,
as it stands now, isn't strong enough to be able to get a conviction... Now if we can identify this man who was at the...
Soviet embassy in Mexico City... This man Oswald has still denied everything. He doesn't know anything about anything, but
the gun thing, of course, is a definite trend.

This man Oswald has still denied everything. He doesn't know anything about anything, but the gun thing, of course, is a definite trend.

Lee Oswald denied all accusations naturally because  Hoover knew that he "doesn't know anything about anything," (IOW...He's just an ignorant patsy.)

but the gun thing, of course, is a definite trend.

Anybody want to venture a guess about what J. Edna was referring to when he said "the gun thing is a definite trend"


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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #478 on: April 03, 2020, 03:44:33 PM »
Anybody want to venture a guess about what J. Edna was referring to when he said "the gun thing is a definite trend"
OK then I'll bite.
The trend being...It is pretty much what a suspect would be expected to say [denying ownership of a weapon]
Ponder this...If the Oswald went to Mexico story did not materialize as needed...then it would have been presumed that Oswald kept this alleged rifle and hauled it around where ever he went. It was dubious was it not that he somehow managed to pack 10 lbs of crap into a 5 lb bag when he went to New Orleans and the rifle was rolled up somehow and placed on the bus? Then it is alleged that Oswald could entrust Ruth to convey the alleged rifle back to Texas without her knowledge. Think about it. It's silly...All laughable conjecture when one scatters out and looks at all the pieces for what they are.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #479 on: April 03, 2020, 05:02:47 PM »
OK then I'll bite.
The trend being...It is pretty much what a suspect would be expected to say [denying ownership of a weapon]
Ponder this...If the Oswald went to Mexico story did not materialize as needed...then it would have been presumed that Oswald kept this alleged rifle and hauled it around where ever he went. It was dubious was it not that he somehow managed to pack 10 lbs of crap into a 5 lb bag when he went to New Orleans and the rifle was rolled up somehow and placed on the bus? Then it is alleged that Oswald could entrust Ruth to convey the alleged rifle back to Texas without her knowledge. Think about it. It's silly...All laughable conjecture when one scatters out and looks at all the pieces for what they are.

Thanks Jerry,.... So you think that Jane Edna Hoover was alluding to Lee carrying the carcano around when he said " The gun thing , of course, is a definite trend"

I appreciate your contribution but I don't think that's what JEH was referring to.....IMO At the time JEH said this to LBJ,  Hoovers cronies were working at connecting the carcano that was sent to Texas from Kleins to AJ Hidell at Lee Oswald's PO box.
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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #480 on: April 03, 2020, 09:02:39 PM »
Thanks Jerry,.... So you think that Jane Edna Hoover was alluding to Lee carrying the carcano around when he said " The gun thing , of course, is a definite trend"
No...as i mentioned---
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The trend being...It is pretty much what a suspect would be expected to say [denying ownership of a weapon]

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #481 on: April 03, 2020, 09:36:37 PM »
No...as i mentioned---

It is pretty much what a suspect would be expected to say [denying ownership of a weapon]

Yer right.... And that's why it is SOP for the police to confront the suspect with the murder weapon.....They know that no matter whether guilty or innocent the man will deny ownership of the weapon....but the beads of sweat and other indications will reveal the truth.   A guilty man generally gives himself away by his reaction .

This is one of the major reasons that I believe Lee Oswald was innocent....   They confronted him with that carcano, and rather than say that he had never seen it before , he told them that he had seen it the day before yesterday outside Mr Truly's office.  That must have been a shock to  the interrogators.....

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #482 on: April 05, 2020, 03:55:15 PM »
“Oswald stated that he did not own any rifle. He advised that he saw a rifle day before yesterday at the Texas School Book Depository which Mr. Truly and two other gentlemen had in their possession and were looking at.“