Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2019, 02:26:18 PM »
The original plot ( plot "A")  Hoover and the others had plotted to make it appear that Lee Oswald was a Casro agent, and they planned to attack Cuba in retaliation....  When LBJ learned that Russia had nuclear bombers in the air and ready to bomb  NYC They backed away and called for back up plot "B".... Hang the murder on that dumbass Lee Harvey Oswald who they knew they could easily frame ...especially if the sucker could be shot while trying to flee the TSBD....
There is no evidence whatsoever that "Russia had nuclear bombers in the air and ready to bomb NYC" and that's why LBJ backed away from blaming Castro. None. No Pentagon reports of this, none from the Soviets, none anywhere. Nothing whatsoever. 

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2019, 07:23:33 PM »
There is no evidence whatsoever that "Russia had nuclear...
..weapons in Cuba. I know about U2 pictures...missiles etc but what actual solid evidence was there that they were equipped with nuclear tips?
In my unsupported guesstimation ...Oswald was not the only American with a cloudy background that was impersonated in Mexico City.
 

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2019, 07:54:29 PM »
..weapons in Cuba. I know about U2 pictures...missiles etc but what actual solid evidence was there that they were equipped with nuclear tips?
In my unsupported guesstimation ...Oswald was not the only American with a cloudy background that was impersonated in Mexico City.

Dear Jerry,

After the failed U.S. attempt to overthrow the Castro regime in Cuba with the Bay of Pigs invasion, and while the Kennedy administration planned Operation Mongoose, in July 1962 Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev reached a secret agreement with Cuban premier Fidel Castro to place Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba to deter any future invasion attempt. Construction of several missile sites began in the late summer, but U.S. intelligence discovered evidence of a general Soviet arms build-up on Cuba, including Soviet IL?28 bombers, during routine surveillance flights, and on September 4, 1962, President Kennedy issued a public warning against the introduction of offensive weapons into Cuba. Despite the warning, on October 14 a U.S. U?2 aircraft took several pictures clearly showing sites for medium-range and intermediate-range ballistic nuclear missiles (MRBMs and IRBMs) under construction in Cuba. These images were processed and presented to the White House the next day, thus precipitating the onset of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

https://history.state.gov/milestones/1961-1968/cuban-missile-crisis

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2019, 08:43:59 PM »
Dear Jerry......
Dear Thomas...
If I show you a gun concealed in a holster under my coat.... How do you really know that there are bullets in it? You just assume there are :-\
Did you know that JFK withdrew US missiles from Turkey over that 'crisis'?
 
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Kennedy had secretly agreed to a major concession to the Soviet Union that Stevenson had urged as a way to end the crisis short of nuclear war. The evidence is contained in a letter written in March by Dean Rusk, Kennedy's secretary of state. It concerns a proposal that the United States should withdraw Jupiter missiles from Turkey simultaneously with the withdrawal of Soviet missiles from Cuba.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/08/29/kennedy-secretly-a-dove-in-cuba-crisis-letter-shows/f875af7a-7874-47cc-b221-cd653959edd4/?noredirect=on
Now let's all return to Mexico City shall we?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=800#relPageId=279
 

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2019, 09:28:17 PM »
Dear Thomas...
If I show you a gun concealed in a holster under my coat.... How do you really know that there are bullets in it? You just assume there are :-\
Did you know that JFK withdrew US missiles from Turkey over that 'crisis'?
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/08/29/kennedy-secretly-a-dove-in-cuba-crisis-letter-shows/f875af7a-7874-47cc-b221-cd653959edd4/?noredirect=on
Now let's all return to Mexico City shall we?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=800#relPageId=279

Dear Jerry,

Are medium range ballistic missiles used for anything other than delivering nuclear warheads?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-12_Dvina

Do you think Khrushchev and Castro just wanted to make Kennedy think those missiles were nuclear-tipped, but really weren't?

Can you prove that they weren't nuclear-tipped?

Do you think the specialists who analyzed the photos taken by the U-2 plane over Cuba somehow misidentified the kind of missles in the photos?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Yes, Jerry, I knew that JFK secretly agreed to withdraw our Jupiter missiles from Turkey, in exchange for Khruschev's agreeing to remove his nuclear-tipped missiles from Cuba.

PPS  Do you believe Oswald went to Mexico City?

If not, do you have any theories as to who impersonated him over the phone there, bearing in mind that on Sarurday 9/28/63 the over-the-phone impersonator spoke "bad English and bad Russian"?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2019, 09:42:42 PM »
..weapons in Cuba. I know about U2 pictures...missiles etc but what actual solid evidence was there that they were equipped with nuclear tips?
In my unsupported guesstimation ...Oswald was not the only American with a cloudy background that was impersonated in Mexico City.

There are many things that ordinary citizens are not told....You'd be surprised to learn how many times nuclear armed airplanes have been scrambled.....

Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Did Oswald Go To Mexico City?
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2019, 09:59:55 PM »
There are many things that ordinary citizens are not told....You'd be surprised to learn how many times nuclear armed airplanes have been scrambled.....

Dear Walt,

You got a secret back-channel to The Truth, or something?

Why would Khruschev put phony MRBM's and IRBM's in Cuba, Walt?

To make JFK pee his pants and allow Khrushev to do anything he wanted in the Western Hemisphere, including threatening a first-strike against Washington D.C. from Cuba?

Who besides Oswald was impersonated in Mexico City, Walt?

(By the evil, evil, evil CIA, right?)

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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