JD Tippit - Serious timing issues

[Walt Cakebread]

Is that a question? I mean anyone no matter who you are. No more armchair walking. No more stopping the clock and resting [like that video]
There is no proof..none at all..that Oswald walked from his room to the Tippit shooting...get it?

There is no proof..none at all..that Oswald walked from his room to the Tippit shooting...get it?     BRAVO!!  Mr Freeman....

[Walt Cakebread]

She left her apartment at 1:00 pm and saw JD Tippit shot to death at 1:06.....   

Actually, she testified that she left at "a little after 1".

To get to 10th/Patton is only a one block walk. She IMO would have arrived there at around 1:06.

In other words, if the shooting happened at 1:15 Markham would not have seen it as she would have been at the bus stop on Jefferson.

   Right you are... Mr Weidmann

[Eddie Haymaker]

IMO LHO went no where near the JD crime scene

he had no time

He went directly to west Jefferson from his rooming house

where he is sighted by JB at around 1.15pm

He describes police reacting outside Hardy's at around 1.18pm

LHO knew a film started at 1.20 pm

therefore the time JD was shot really is irrelevant

LHO could not realistically have been there much sooner than 1.14pm anyway

He didnt leave his rooming house until 1.03pm

There are so many conflicting witnesses at the JD crime scene

I prefer to not get bogged down in it

We all know Mrs Markham changed her story more than once

perhaps we are cherry picking witnesses that suit our version of events?

How long do you think it took DB to use the police radio after the murder?

Hey Breadman do you have a link to your personal theory please?

[Jerry Freeman]

Markham is known to be unreliable at best....

That really isn't true. Researcher Dale Meyers did a thorough check on her and Helen Markham was a allegrophobic. That is a fancy name for a punctuality freak. Her friends and family were interviewed about that. In her interview by Mark Lane [which he recorded] she told him .... that she was at the police station and she identified Oswald as the person who had shot Officer Tippit in the lineup, including three other persons. She said no one pointed Oswald out to her, and she said she was just shown four people, and she picked Oswald. She said when he asked her how she could identify him, she said she was able to identify him because of his clothing, a gray jacket and dark trousers."

Mr. BALL. Well, the man that you identified as the number 2 man in the lineup in the police station, you identified him as the man you had seen shoot Officer Tippit?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, I did.

Oswald stood in the lineup all beaten black and blue and in a T shirt no jacket along with 3 cops in suits. Which guy was the obvious suspect? 
Eddie...your obviously new at this.... tread carefully with assumptions.

   

[Eddie Haymaker]

Like I've said over and over

There are so many conflicting witnesses at the JD crime scene

I prefer to not get bogged down in it

"your obviously new at this.... tread carefully with assumptions. "

An assumption of your own?

are you trying to be ironic?

IMO she is unreliable

She picked Oswald out because of police gesturing?

and in the same breath you say she is a reliable witness?

[Bill Brown]

Was the WR a cover up?

I think this question answer's itself

The sitting president of the US himself did not believe in the MBT.

The majority of Americans do not believe in it's lone gunman conclusion

The final HSCA's ruling was a probable conspiracy

I am not sure what my opinions or POV can really add to all that

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Was the DPD involved?

IMO the evidence suggests that individuals within the DPD were involved

in this crime.

-The LHO murder
The cops know Ruby.They also know he is not a reporter.Nobody say's "hey jack,what are you doing here?" He loiters around the DPD waiting for his opportunity.Does he keep a low profile? No he answers questions.He has been arrested multiple times for carrying a firearm.He is known to police.personally.

-The rooming house
It is widely accepted by both sides of this debate that Mrs Roberts
Saw a police car pull up outside LHO's rooming house 1/2 an hour after JFK
was hit beep the horn.This evidence is quickly dismissed by the DPD who say they had to no cars in the area at that time.This is evidence of police knowledge and one of the single most overlooked and understated piece's of evidence in this case IMO.

-The Investigation
Well I think most people know the open and shut nature of this case
as described by the DPD and the DA.I don't need to go deeper into this.When you say "moral certainty" regarding his guilt on television I think your POV is clear.
The trial would have been interesting with everyone announcing his guilt before 24 hours had even elapsed. "He acted alone"

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The fact that the HSCA confirm a probable conspiracy defies the DPD investigation and therefore asks serious questions about it's competency at best.Complicity at worst.

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Good luck cherry picking

So if the Warren Commission (and members within the Dallas Police Department) were in on the cover up, why do we see Bowley's affidavit saying that he arrived at 1:10?  If there was a cover up and Oswald couldn't have been at Tenth and Patton as early as 1:10, none of us would have ever laid our eyes on Bowley's affidavit.

[Bill Brown]

Oswald stood in the lineup all beaten black and blue and in a T shirt no jacket along with 3 cops in suits.

No. Just.  No.