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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #152 on: March 01, 2020, 04:54:04 AM »
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The warrant for Lee's arrest [after they had already arrested him]...

What a joke. They had no warrant for his arrest or even probable cause for a murder arrest when they actually arrested him so they dummied one up after he was already in custody.

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #153 on: March 01, 2020, 05:35:24 PM »
What a joke. They had no warrant for his arrest or even probable cause for a murder arrest when they actually arrested him so they dummied one up after he was already in custody.

Bulls eye!!......This document is just another piece of evidence that the DPD had Lee Oswald pegged as their patsy.

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #154 on: March 01, 2020, 05:44:19 PM »

Can the search warrant for 1026 N Beckley be located somewhere?
Because I have never seen it and can't seem to find it. But there apparently was one---
Bugliosi describes one  p 134  --- https://books.google.com/books?id=7jrKTKDhvfkC&pg=PA134&lpg=PA135&dq=search+warrant+for+oswald%27s+room&source=bl&ots=WntK8ER6ix&sig=ACfU3U2cv5Ms4x4jm3oaYslvoHduGXaUjQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFhuenmvjnAhUCMawKHeLiAe0Q6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=search%20warrant%20for%20oswald's%20room&f=false
& p 135
https://books.google.com/books?id=7jrKTKDhvfkC&pg=PA135&lpg=PA135&dq=search+warrant+for+oswald%27s+room&source=bl&ots=WntK8ER6ix&sig=ACfU3U2cv5Ms4x4jm3oaYslvoHduGXaUjQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFhuenmvjnAhUCMawKHeLiAe0Q6AEwA3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=search%20warrant%20for%20oswald's%20room&f=false

 The warrant for Lee's arrest [after they had already arrested him]...
 What did the cops show the owners at the house?


 "A search warrant pronto"
One question never answered truthfully anywhere after all this time...How did the cops even know about 1026 N Beckley?


This document is very interesting in the fact that it obviously been created AFTER  Lee was in the custody of the police .....  WHY would they create such an obviously false document???    Why Richardson, Texas.....??    Captain Fritz was a DALLAS police officer.....

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #155 on: March 01, 2020, 07:28:39 PM »
This document is very interesting in the fact that it obviously been created AFTER  Lee was in the custody of the police .....  WHY would they create such an obviously false document???    Why Richardson, Texas.....??    Captain Fritz was a DALLAS police officer.....
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An officer cannot search your dwelling or car when you're arrested elsewhere, such as on the street or at the mall. To justify a search as incident to an arrest, a spatial relationship must exist between the arrest and the search. The general rule is that the police may search the arrested person and the area within that person’s immediate control. For example, an arresting officer can often search not only a suspect’s clothes, but also his or her wallet or purse. (Chimel v. California, U.S. Sup. Ct. 1969; see Cellphone Searches After Arrest.)
Did anyone read the pages I linked from RH [Reclaiming History]? According to the timing of some warrant procurement process [and Bugliosi relates a 4:20 PM time] ...by then the frigging search had supposedly already taken place at 1026 N Beckeley!!
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Mr. BELIN. How long had you been at the house when the officers arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Oh, probably 30 minutes.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember about what time of the day they arrived?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, it must have been around 1:30 or 2 o'clock--the best I remember.
Mr. BELIN.....How soon after you got home did the police come--approximately?
Mr. JOHNSON. I'd say within 30 minutes.
Mr. BELIN. All right. 30 minutes after you got home the Police came.
Mr. JOHNSON. Yes.---------------
Mr. BELIN. What did they say?
Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they wanted to see the records, and we showed them--the register, I mean--and we showed them the register. And then they searched his room.
  The 'register' that was never produced to this day :-\
Any Dallas County judge can sign a Dallas County warrant. RH states that Alexander called Johnson. Where was Johnson? Who knows?
Apparently Bugliosi did not proof read the smelly dead fish in his book very well.
What say you...Bugliosi fans? 

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2020, 08:13:01 PM »
What was Oswald's room number? Was it 0 [zero]? Who would stay in room zero? Was it O [as in Oswald]?
Or was it 13...17?
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The officers could not perform a search until Justice of the Peace, David L, Johnston, Det. R. M. Turner, Det. H. M. Moore, and Assistant District Attorney, Bill Alexander, arrived with the search warrant at approximately 5 PM, enabling the officers to initiate their formal inquiry. Detective Potts described the scene in this way: “Well, the room was off–as you walk into the house, the living area, the room was right there at the front door, and it was off to the left of the living room. It was a real small room. It was, oh, I don’t suppose it was 6 to 8 feet wide, and maybe 10 feet long. It was a real small room. It had a half bed in there and back in the back there it had a shelf—some shelves and stuff that he had some food and stuff back there in.”
Is this what A C Johnson testified?

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2020, 10:35:01 AM »
Bulls eye!!......This document is just another piece of evidence that the DPD had Lee Oswald pegged as their patsy.

But how could they have known this plan would work? What if Oswald was photographed on the street when the shots were fired? How could they have guaranteed he wouldn't have an alibi?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: O H Lee and the Beckley Rooming House
« Reply #158 on: March 02, 2020, 04:02:02 PM »
But how could they have known this plan would work? What if Oswald was photographed on the street when the shots were fired? How could they have guaranteed he wouldn't have an alibi?

What if Oswald was photographed on the street when the shots were fired?

Huh?.... The warrant was issued AFTER Lee was in custody.    They KNEW where Lee had been after he left the TSBD.    They knew that nobody had taken any photos of Lee Oswald at the time the shots were fired (1:06)   

How could they have guaranteed he wouldn't have an alibi?

 As a matter of fact Lee DID have an alibi.....  Mrs Roberts said that she saw him standing on the sidewalk in front of the rooming house at 1:04 ...Which is the same time that JD Tippit was driving along behind the man he was tailing.     Lee could not have been in front of the rooming house and at 10th & Patton at the same time.

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« Reply #159 on: March 02, 2020, 09:25:20 PM »
One question never answered truthfully anywhere after all this time...How did the cops even know about 1026 N Beckley?
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Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there?
Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh- after he was -uh- apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket.
Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley?
Mr. JOHNSON. That's right.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/johnso_a.htm
OK UH so...Oswald had a slip of paper [in his pocket?] that UH said "I live at 1026 N Beckley".
As ludicrous as that sounds...there was no such document produced in evidence...No mention of such an item was testified to by any of the arresting officers...and nothing about such an item was asked about in anyone's search or in [Oswald's interrogation] notes.
How did the cops know about 1026 N Beckley? Anyone?