Was George HW Bush employed by the CIA on 11/22/63? Does it matter?

[Jon Banks]

The thing is this Bay of pigs was called operation Zapata Bush's oil company was called Zapata oil. Two of the ships used was called Huston. where Bush lived. The other was called Barbara . Bush's wife.

Worst Spy ever if Bush chose those names for those Covert things

[Joe Elliott]

Questions:

Did any CTers, like Mark Lane, mention George H. W. Bush as taking part in the assassination before he was appointed the CIA Director?

What is the earliest mention of a CT author of Bush?s possible involvement?

Did this only start after he was made the CIA Director? After he became Vice President? After he became President?

[Jerry Freeman]

Questions:
 

Is there an echo in here? Didn't you ask all that here?----
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[Richard Rubio]

The thing is this Bay of pigs was called operation Zapata Bush's oil company was called Zapata oil. Two of the ships used was called Huston. where Bush lived. The other was called Barbara . Bush's wife.

Boat was called Barbara J, Barbara Bush's maiden name, Barbara Pierce with no middle initial. Write up at MacAdams showed researchers said both of those boats, Houston and Barbara J were called that for some time before the Bay of Pigs.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/prouty.htm

It bothers me some though still, how GHW Bush didn't recall, seemed to have problems saying where he was on that day, "Somewhere in Texas", well, that includes a heckuva lot of area.

[Jon Banks]

Questions:

Did any CTers, like Mark Lane, mention George H. W. Bush as taking part in the assassination before he was appointed the CIA Director?

What is the earliest mention of a CT author of Bush?s possible involvement?

Did this only start after he was made the CIA Director? After he became Vice President? After he became President?

It probably started around the time George DeMorenschildt wrote a letter to him. Some time in the 1970s.

Bush and DeMorenschildt were aquatintences.

[Tom Scully]

Questions:

Did any CTers, like Mark Lane, mention George H. W. Bush as taking part in the assassination before he was appointed the CIA Director?

What is the earliest mention of a CT author of Bush?s possible involvement?

Did this only start after he was made the CIA Director? After he became Vice President? After he became President?

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It bothers me some though still, how GHW Bush didn't recall, seemed to have problems saying where he was on that day, "Somewhere in Texas", well, that includes a heckuva lot of area.

It probably started around the time George DeMorenschildt wrote a letter to him. Some time in the 1970s.

Bush and DeMorenschildt were aquatintences.

Jon, my intent is not to link you to the other two posters I quoted above my quote of your post, or to the
wording of their comments. I structured my post to attempt to kill a few birds with one stone in as small of
a foot print on this page as possible.

Everyone: Please search to confirm details before you post.

My posts are known to be long because I verify before I post and almost always include supporting cites
to the degree of overkill, but hopefully readers will consider and compare the comments I quoted  with
their own held beliefs and assumptions and the body of available, verifiable facts.

Joe, I cannot emphasize any more firmly than this that it amounts to working against the impression you will
make on reasonable readers at the expense of your own credibility if you link direct involvement in the Assassination
of JFK with Bush 41.

There is reasonable support for the opinion or analysis that people close to Bush and an gov. agency Tom Devine
was representing concealed and obstructed after the fact and behaved as if they had somethings to suppress
or conceal.
Supporting presentations, (Aside from the 11/22 call from Bush to his Houston FBI friend Graham Kitchel) :
Bush, Devine and Devine friends:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1437.msg38781.html#msg38781

Billy Joe Lord's 1977 complaint letter about Bush and his close friend allegedly threatening his job security if
he refused an interview with Henry Hurt who was dispatched to Midland by Reader's Digest.:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1439.0.html
Dec. 6 specially decorated Bush '41 Train engine, was Billy Joe Lord on board?

It is a myth that Bush 41 did not recall where he was or what he was doing when informed JFK had been shot.

https://whowhatwhy.org/2013/10/09/bush-and-the-jfk-hit-part-4-barbaras-hair-raising-day/
OCTOBER 9, 2013 | RUSS BAKER
BUSH AND THE JFK HIT, PART 4: BARBARA?S HAIR-RAISING DAY

....The Tyler story is borne out by the personal recollections of Aubrey Irby, then vice president of the local Kiwanis Club (and later president of Kiwanis International during Bush?s vice presidency). As Irby explained to the author Kitty Kelley, Bush had been waiting to deliver a luncheon speech to his organization ? to one hundred men gathered at Tyler?s Blackstone Hotel.....
.....In a 2007 interview with me, Irby described George H. W. Bush at the time of the news as matter-of-fact and supremely well composed. ...

Tom S. March 5, 2016 at 10:30 pm http://jfkfacts.org/exchange-on-the-bush-did-it-theory/#comment-861370
By the 20th anniversary, Bush had his response, ?in order.?
November 7, 1983 :
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1916&dat=19831107&id=xChJAAAAIBAJ&sjid=iQYNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1438,1274908&hl=en


The ?problem? is not where Bush was on November 22. It is that he had so many he was so close to who
had close contact with DeMohrenschildt, and in one example, with both DeMohrenschildt and with Garry Coit,
Priscilla Johnson?s CIA contact. In 1940, Bush lived in the small A.U.V. secret society house on the campus of Phillips Andover ? http://preservation.mhl.org/123-main-st

Denis has not been posting here lately, our loss, not his. He sets an example we all can use as an self improvement
benchmark.

Denis Morissette Posted August 6
The Allen photo of the Bush look-alike is Allen 5-3 a few minutes before the Tippit shooting was announced. M.N. McDonald is in the picture. The radio will report this later.

On 8/4/2018 at 10:58 PM, Denis Morissette said:
George H.W. Bush at the Kiwanis Club in Tyler, Texas, on November 22, 1963 (thanks to Steve Roe) and a letter from him detailing where he was on that day.

There is more evidence the vessel Barbara J was nsmed after the wife of JFK aid Col. Howard Burris than after
Barbara Bush.

Quixotic Joust: Excerpt from Manuscript by Richard Bartholomew
http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/10/excerpt-from-manuscript-by-richard.html
Oct 4, 2011 - Howard Burris was Vice President Johnson's military representative and ..... Colonel Burris' wife, Barbara J. Burris, is the daughter of Governor ...

Bruce McAdams takes credit for publicly linking Bush to George Dem....
http://ciajfk.com/Letters.html

Our Man in Haiti: George de Mohrenschildt and the CIA in the ...
https://books=1936296535.google.com/books?isbn

Joan Mellen - 2012 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Sources in CIA's Directorate of Operations told Wall Street Journal reporter Anthony Kimery that Bush ?personally served as a conduit through which the Agency disbursed money for contracted services.? Asa ?parttime purchasing front
for CIA,? ...

Link to credits....
 Author Joan Mellen book Acknowledgements:

https://covertactionmagazine.com/index.php/2018/12/05/george-bush-and-the-cia-in-the-company-of-friends/
George Bush and the CIA: In the Company of Friends
by Anthony Kimery ? December 5, 2018
.......
Following the defeat of Nazi Germany, DeMohrenschildt appears to have been submerged as a deep cover CIA ?asset,? operating under the guise of a consulting petro?leum geologist specializing in making deals between U.S. oil companies and the East-bloc nations to which he was remarkably well-connected.13 Mallon personally introduced the Count to Bush at about the same time Mallon handed Bush the highly sensitive responsibility of negotiating East?-bloc deals. The officials with whom Bush dealt had detailed knowledge of Soviet-bloc oil and gas production and ex?ploration and drilling capabilities, as well as strategic ex?ploration and production plans outside the USSR. Bush convivially wheeled and dealed with the communists? pe?troleum experts without the slightest grimace by U.S. auth?orities. In fact, when a Yugoslavian oil industry official came to the U.S. in 1948 to talk to Dresser Industries, the State Department barely flinched and he went straight to neophyte salesman George Bush in Midland, Texas.14....

[Joe Elliott]

Is there an echo in here? Didn't you ask all that here?----
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Asked but not answered.

Were any CTers, Mark Lane, anyone else, accusing Bush of being involved in the assassination before he became the CIA Director?

Or was this a case that was first manufactured after he became well known, after he became the CIA Director?

Until some CTer here answers the question and provides a link, I am going to assume it was manufactured afterwards.