Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2018, 12:24:12 PM »
Is there not already a prayer person thread [about 100 pages of it] ???

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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2018, 10:50:28 PM »


Friends! It is important to recall that it was established some time back on the 'Prayer Woman' thread that no shadow can account for the dark vertical strip down 'Lovelady's' right side in the Wiegman frames. It's a physical impossibility!

This is either Billy Lovelady with some dark garment covering the right side of his red plaid shirt, or it's not Billy Lovelady at all.  ???
As pictured @ about 12:30pm CST, 11/22/'63, filmed from an in-motion hand held moving motion picture camera by a cameraman in a Motorcade Convertible Automobile, in Dallas, Texas, DealeyPlaza, showing the south/southeast facing TexasSchoolBookDepository Building Elm St Entrance Portal Image.
As filmed, there is a definite vertical shadow partially blocking Images from direct sunlight, including BillyNolanLoveladyImage's right side. And, there is nothing draped over his Image's right side at filming!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 04:54:57 AM »
As photos and film footage taken of the entrance area shortly after the assassination amply show---------------

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----------------the position of the sun in the sky rules out any shadow cast by the west column as the explanation for the dark vertical strip down 'Lovelady' in all the Wiegman doorway frames.

And! There is in Wiegman no human body in 'Lovelady's' vicinity, and to his west, to cast a shadow, vertical or otherwise, down his side!

To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance---or disinformation  ::)

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 06:59:38 AM »
As photos and film footage taken of the entrance area shortly after the assassination amply show---------------

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----------------the position of the sun in the sky rules out any shadow cast by the west column as the explanation for the dark vertical strip down 'Lovelady' in all the Wiegman doorway frames.

And! There is in Wiegman no human body in 'Lovelady's' vicinity, and to his west, to cast a shadow, vertical or otherwise, down his side!

To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance---or disinformation  ::)

An all to familiar EdselDodge by Ford, as while discussing a WiegmanFilm frame, but illustrating two different scenes several minutes after the WiegmanFilm, different cameras, different distance, and different camera angles.
Why use any film other than the WiegmanFilm?
And you say, "To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance---or disinformation  ::)"?
??? You wish!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 01:22:51 PM »
An all to familiar EdselDodge by Ford, as while discussing a WiegmanFilm frame, but illustrating two different scenes several minutes after the WiegmanFilm, different cameras, different distance, and different camera angles.
Why use any film other than the WiegmanFilm?
And you say, "To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance---or disinformation  ::)"?
??? You wish!


Poor Mr Trotter evidently believes that a different camera angle on the ground will cause the sun to move its position in the sky! Keep the gags coming, Mr Trotter  :D

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2018, 04:22:46 PM »
Poor Mr Trotter evidently believes that a different camera angle on the ground will cause the sun to move its position in the sky! Keep the gags coming, Mr Trotter  :D
And surely you will ::).
Try to remember, over here, Sunlight origin and relative shadow/shadow angle is determined by objects and their placement, as well as their positioning at a given time determined by daily rotation as well as annual orbit
of Our Earth. >:(
But again, why do you use a MartinFilmClip and a HughesFilmClip, both of which were filmed from a different Camera, CameraAngle and CameraDistance, than the WiegmanFilmClip, the basis for your no vertical shadow claim, that was filmed, accordingly, an estimated 20 minutes prior to the MartinFilmClip and HughesFilmClip of the TSBD Elm St EntrancePortal? ???
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Re: Prayer Man - An Alternative Solution?
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2018, 04:36:10 PM »
And surely you will ::).
Try to remember, over here, Sunlight origin and relative shadow/shadow angle is determined by objects and their positioning at a given time determined by daily rotation as well as annual orbit
of Our Earth. >:(
But again, why do you use a MartinFilmClip and a HughesFilmClip, both of which were filmed from a different Camera, CameraAngle and CameraDistance, than the WiegmanFilmClip, the basis for your no vertical shadow claim, that was filmed, accordingly, an estimated 20 minutes prior to the MartinFilmClip and HughesFilmClip of the TSBD Elm St EntrancePortal? ???

Okey dokey, Mr Trotter, if you believe that's a shadow down Mr Lovelady's right side in Wiegman, how about you show us an image (photo or film) that supports your silly notion?

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