The autopsy.. 55 years later

[Royell Storing]

I see. So, because Robert Knudsen makes a claim that runs contrary to all the evidence he must be taken seriously and doubt has to be cast on the HSCA panel which concluded there was evidence of a conspiracy.

     Robert L. Knudsen was a White House Photog dating back to Eisenhower. He also held a High Security Clearance which is why he Headed the developing of the JFK Autopsy Photos on 11/23/63. If his Testimony was so outlandish: (1) Why did the HSCA take his Testimony in a Back Room away from the same TV cameras that filmed that Skit conducted by the alleged Umbrella Man/Witt? and (2) Why did the HSCA SEAL Knudsen's Testimony in order to Hide it from the public and posterity? Knudsen had Long Term High Level Credibility that could Not be Discredited or simply Ignored.  It had to be Buried.

[Oscar Navarro]

Maybe because Knudsen was there and the HSCA panel weren't?

You're saying Robert Knudsen was present during the autopsy?

[Martin Weidmann]

Marty, calm down. I did not just outright dismiss the claims of the persons mentioned in your post. What I did was to weigh the evidence and make the decision that the trained pathologist who most closely examined the body had to have a better view than the others. Would you not agree with that?
 
As to the Jenkins video, I think he's full of crap. He believes in the casket switching nonsense that not even Robert Groden accepts. Kennedy's casket was accompanied by several persons throughout the entire episode from Parkland Hospital to when it arrived at the morgue in Bethesda Hospital and the body was removed and placed on the morgue's metal table while being viewed by Dr's Humes and Boswell.

Marty, calm down. I did not just outright dismiss the claims of the persons mentioned in your post. What I did was to weigh the evidence and make the decision that the trained pathologist who most closely examined the body had to have a better view than the others. Would you not agree with that?

Actually no, I wouldn't. Jenkins and O'Connor were assistants of the three men doing the autopsy and got just as close to the body as them. Floyd Reibe and Jerrol Custer took X-rays of the President's body. They were moving him around and also had a good view of the body. You don't need to be a doctor to see where the wounds are located!

As to the Jenkins video, I think he's full of crap. He believes in the casket switching nonsense that not even Robert Groden accepts. Kennedy's casket was accompanied by several persons throughout the entire episode from Parkland Hospital to when it arrived at the morgue in Bethesda Hospital and the body was removed and placed on the morgue's metal table while being viewed by Dr's Humes and Boswell.

I couldn't care less what Groden accepts or not. Why did you even bring him up? Were you saying; "Groden doesn't believe it, so neither should you"? I hope not because that would be a very weak argument to make. Anyway, the fact remains that in the video Jenkins confirms the arrival of the body in a shipping casket at 6.35 pm, which is also what Paul O'Connor and Dennis David said. The latter also confirms that Jerrol Custer had already made X-rays of the body and was on his way to get more film when Jackie arrived with the grey ambulance. Sibert & O'Neil wrote in their report that they heard one of the doctors (don't remember which one) remark that there seemed to have been surgery to the head. Jenkins confirms that he saw that surgical cut also. Jenkins, O'Connor, O'Neill and Tom Robinson all confirm the location of the wound at the back of the head.

It's easy to say that one person is full of crap, but here you have at least seven persons, who were all present at Bethesda, basically all telling parts of the same story and corroborating eachother on key points... Just how many people need to say the same things before you stop dismissing them as being full of crap?

Either all of these people got together and for no reason whatsoever decided to tell the same lies or something was going on at Bethesda, would you not agree?

When you claim to be an honest investigator, you can not simply dismiss these people as being full of crap. You really need to explain why the story these people and others have been telling (some still do to this day), does not justify the conclusion that something very untoward was happening at Bethesda.

Have a look at this video of Dennis David speaking in 2016;

Tell me what you think. Is he full of crap also?

[Don Echols]

He is the one person,that sounds credible.He gave such detail,from the casket,arriving around 8pm,but Kennedy's body arrived at 6:38 a hour and a half,before Mrs. Kennedy and the casket did. Also the shot from the TSBD was not a fatal wound.PSA, The National Archive,have the front windshield from the limo,it does have a bullet hole in it.

[Oscar Navarro]

     Robert L. Knudsen was a White House Photog dating back to Eisenhower. He also held a High Security Clearance which is why he Headed the developing of the JFK Autopsy Photos on 11/23/63. If his Testimony was so outlandish: (1) Why did the HSCA take his Testimony in a Back Room away from the same TV cameras that filmed that Skit conducted by the alleged Umbrella Man/Witt? and (2) Why did the HSCA SEAL Knudsen's Testimony in order to Hide it from the public and posterity? Knudsen had Long Term High Level Credibility that could Not be Discredited or simply Ignored.  It had to be Buried.

So Dr's. Hume, Boswell, Finck, and Ebersol are all liers. Is that what's being implied? FBI Agents Sibert and O'Neill were there too and there's nothing about seeing probes as claimed by Knudsen. I believe that Dr. Finck probed the hole in the upper back and Dr. Humes did with his pinky and that's it. No metal probe went thru JFK's body and the only place a probe could possibly have gone through was the upper back through the neck. Dr. Humes did not realize the wound in the throat was an exit wound until after he spoke with Dr. Malcolm Perry Saturday morning.


To sum up the craziness of Knudsen's claim all the doctors in Parkland Hospital who examined JFK and all the doctors who examined JFK at Bethesda either failed to see chest wounds or covered up the alleged fact of the chest wounds.

[Martin Weidmann]

So Dr's. Hume, Boswell, Finck, and Ebersol are all liers. Is that what's being implied? FBI Agents Sibert and O'Neill were there too and there's nothing about seeing probes as claimed by Knudsen. I believe that Dr. Finck probed the hole in the upper back and Dr. Humes did with his pinky and that's it. No metal probe went thru JFK's body and the only place a probe could possibly have gone through was the upper back through the neck. Dr. Humes did not realize the wound in the throat was an exit wound until after he spoke with Dr. Malcolm Perry Saturday morning.

To sum up the craziness of Knudsen's claim all the doctors in Parkland Hospital who examined JFK and all the doctors who examined JFK at Bethesda either failed to see chest wounds or covered up the alleged fact of the chest wounds.

So Dr's. Hume, Boswell, Finck, and Ebersol are all liers. Is that what's being implied?

Or under orders for the sake of national security... could that be? In any event, it's either those guys who are lying or a substantial number of lower ranking people, who for some unexplained reason got together and decided to collectively lie and tell (parts of) the same story. One thing is for sure, we know that Humes lied when he said he had destroyed the first draft of the autopsy report by burning it, because it had blood on it. We know he lied because under oath he confirmed he had written that first draft in a room no way near the body, so there couldn't have been blood on the paper.

FBI Agents Sibert and O'Neill were there too and there's nothing about seeing probes as claimed by Knudsen.

Yes they were there, but not all the time in the autopsy room.

You keep on picking on one of those guys instead of the entire group of people who contradict the doctors with their statements. It probably makes it easier for you to dismiss individual people as liars (like you did with Jenkins and O'Connor) but perhaps you should try for once to be honest enough to deal with the combined story of all these people together.

[Royell Storing]

So Dr's. Hume, Boswell, Finck, and Ebersol are all liers. Is that what's being implied? FBI Agents Sibert and O'Neill were there too and there's nothing about seeing probes as claimed by Knudsen. I believe that Dr. Finck probed the hole in the upper back and Dr. Humes did with his pinky and that's it. No metal probe went thru JFK's body and the only place a probe could possibly have gone through was the upper back through the neck. Dr. Humes did not realize the wound in the throat was an exit wound until after he spoke with Dr. Malcolm Perry Saturday morning.


To sum up the craziness of Knudsen's claim all the doctors in Parkland Hospital who examined JFK and all the doctors who examined JFK at Bethesda either failed to see chest wounds or covered up the alleged fact of the chest wounds.

      You continue to avoid answering the Obvious. If Knudsen's claims were pure "craziness": (1) Why did the HSCA subpoena him to testify, and (2) Why did the HSCA SEAL his testimony?