The Warren Commission Conclusion.

[Martin Weidmann]

Why, it's your claim! DUH!'

And now I've got to research why you think the SBF was essential to the WC findings? WTF!

JohnM

Going back a couple of posts is "research" to you?

[Andrew Mason]

I can find almost nothing in the Warren Commission?s conclusions that I disagree with. Just the last line.

(f) Within these limitations, however, the Commission finds that the agents most immediately responsible for the President's safety reacted promptly at the time the shots were fired from the Texas School Book Depository Building.

However, the reasons for the slow response of the Secret Service are easy to see. A motorcade with frequent loud backfires by the escorting motorcycles is bound to slow their responses. The backfires would be about as loud as a rifle shot, particularly with some motorcycles being so much closer to the Secret Service agents then a rifle 130 to 265 feet away.

I think it is natural to except most Secret Service agents to not begin to react until after the President is wounded at z222 and for the two agents in the front seat, who did not see the President?s reactions to his wounding, to not react effectively until after the headshot at z312.

The Warren Commission conclusions were much sounder than the later House Select Committee on Assassinations. I think this shows the pitfalls of having a later investigation designed to find errors in the first investigation due to a possible lack of time. The desire to find major errors in the first investigation caused the HSCA to make major errors in their conclusions.

The reactions of the Secret Service were not overly delayed if the first shot occurred at z210 as the Commission seemed to find. Certainly that was McCloy's position because he made the point that Connally was struck by it but didn't notice it until after the second shot.

With the cars going down Elm and about to enter the freeway, there was not a lot that could be done.  JFK did not want SS agents on the back of the Presidential car.

Clint Hill saw the opportunity to reach the President's car when it slowed down just before the head shot.  He jumped off the followup car within about 3 seconds from z210. Jack Ready on the right front running board started to run to the President's car immediately after but was called back by Emory Roberts for safety concerns (CE1024, 18 H 734 and 750).

In retrospect, the SS agents were not adequately trained to recognize gun fire and to react.   If Greer had been able to recognize the gun fire at the first shot and immediately react by making the President less of a target - and certainly not slowing down to make him a sitting duck -  the result might have been different.  But that was a training issue and it is unfair to put the blame on the agents themselves.  Even if the other agents had recognized the first shot as gunfire, there was little they could have done in the 6 seconds that followed.  Six seconds is not much time to do anything let alone determine where shots are coming from and put your body between the shooter and the President, which was the best they could have done.

[Rob Caprio]

Yeah, almost all of the evidence.

Sure you can cherry pick an example here or there which I'm sure any of us can do but the overwhelming evidence since day 1 has pointed to only Oswald.

In almost 55 years if you had any proof of a conspiracy then we wouldn't be having this debate but all that keeps the Conspiracy movement moving is unending speculation which so far goes nowhere but do keep trying because you never know you John, you may just be the one out of thousands who can actually figure this out, Good Luck, you're gonna need it.

JohnM

This is longwinded doublespeak for him NOT having any. The evidence provided by the WC didn't point to LHO in 1964 so of course it doesn't point to LHO in 2018.

[John Iacoletti]

Yeah, almost all of the evidence.

LOL

In almost 55 years if you had any proof of a conspiracy then we wouldn't be having this debate but all that keeps the Conspiracy movement moving is unending speculation which so far goes nowhere but do keep trying because you never know you John, you may just be the one out of thousands who can actually figure this out, Good Luck, you're gonna need it.

Poor "Mytton".  He actually thinks that the lack of proof of a conspiracy somehow shows that Oswald did it.

[Oscar Navarro]

Not one cite in sight.

Yet there are 62 pages worth of footnotes in the Warren Report 

[Anthony Clayden]

Once they had a known location/time of the shooter and the known location (and narrow window of time) of the suspect and only one path possible between the two locations within a narrow window of time, how about confirming that none of the TSBD staff were in a position to either impede unobserved traversal of that path during that time?

Every staff between the 2nd and 6th should haver been asked to confirm if they traversed the stairs or where in a position to observe the stairs. The WC failed to confirm that the presumed path of the assassin was able to be used by them at the time they were supposed to use it.

Instead a single TSBD staff Adams, who gave evidence of an early transit on the stairs was refuted by an observation in her testimony, that was uncoroborated by any of other 3 people and which she now denies having made. Any testimony by either Garner or Dorman about Adams and Styles descent, was either not sort or conviently not included, why? Why did they not make the simple check of the path being clear for the descent? Did it just not occurr that the numerous people in the TSBD may have used or been in place to observe any transit or as I think more likely they had a "cinched" case so lets not turn over stones?

This is the single biggest flaw in the WC in my opinion, they know where the suspect must have traversed but made to attmept to confirm if he could have unobserved made such a transit.

 

[Rob Caprio]

Yet there are 62 pages worth of footnotes in the Warren Report

Then cite away for the claims in the OP.