Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar  (Read 111802 times)

Offline Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6008
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #231 on: June 24, 2022, 04:57:31 PM »
What time was that calendar recovered by the DPD on 11/23?

Also....

That calendar notation made by Mrs. Paine was obviously written on that calendar page AFTER the assassination. And there are multiple reasons to know why it HAD to have been written in after November 22nd:

1.) Ruth wasn't even aware that Lee Oswald owned a rifle up until the afternoon of 11/22/63. (Naturally, most CTers think Ruth lied about that, too.)

2.) If Ruth Paine was really the vile patsy-framing vixen and conspirator that CTers thinks she was, then why on Earth would Ruth, PRIOR to President Kennedy's murder, have written a note on her March 1963 calendar saying "LHO purchase of rifle"?

Do CTers think Ruth was leaving a little bread crumb of conspiratorial proof for future researchers to find, so that those researchers can scream these words with delight -- "Aha! I told you Ruth Paine was a liar!"?

Which, therefore, must also mean that CTers believe that Ruth was privy to the "March 20th" date of Oswald's rifle purchase PRIOR to the time when Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry made that date of 3/20/63 known to the public on national television on November 23, 1963.

So, how did Ruth became aware of that "March 20" information prior to 11/23/63? Was she in cahoots with Klein's Sporting Goods? Or did the evil FBI furnish her with that exact date? Or could it be that it was Ruth Paine HERSELF who faked and manufactured Waldman Exhibit No. 7? Maybe it was Ruth herself who wrote "3/20/63" on that Klein's document. Is that how CTers think she knew the date prior to November 23rd?

The application of logic and facts is, as always. lost on the CTer mind.  They have spent considerable time and effort desperately attempting to rebut the fact that Marina confirmed that Oswald kept a rifle in the blanket.  Bizarrely arguing that when she testified that she "saw that it was a rifle" in the blanket that meant only that she "believed" or "assumed" there was a rifle in the blanket.  And yet here CTers insist Paine had knowledge of Oswald purchasing that rifle because of Paine's notation.  The same rifle that they otherwise contend doesn't exist.  And round and round it goes.

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #232 on: June 24, 2022, 05:35:58 PM »
"Naturally...Most" You just made that up.You must be world famous for making up the most extraneous lighting of gas ever.
The point still missed is why make such an immaterial notation on the calendar in the first place?
I don't have the foggiest clue and neither do you or does anyone else.

why make such an immaterial notation on the calendar in the first place?

Answer:.... Because Ruth Paine was an FBI informant and assigned to keep an eye on the Oswald's who Hoover believed were Russian communist spies.    Marina had complained to Ruth ( the only person she could talk to) about Lee spending money for a rifle.   This was something that Ruth thought the FBI should know, so when she got home she made the notation on her calendar to remind her to report this to the FBI on their next contact.


Offline Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6008
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #233 on: June 24, 2022, 06:06:38 PM »
why make such an immaterial notation on the calendar in the first place?

Answer:.... Because Ruth Paine was an FBI informant and assigned to keep an eye on the Oswald's who Hoover believed were Russian communist spies.    Marina had complained to Ruth ( the only person she could talk to) about Lee spending money for a rifle.   This was something that Ruth thought the FBI should know, so when she got home she made the notation on her calendar to remind her to report this to the FBI on their next contact.

So Oswald did buy a rifle in this timeframe?  And Marina and Ruth Paine can both confirm it!  Fantastic.  We don't need to argue with CTers about that anymore.  That basically cooks Oswald's goose since the only rifle that can be associated with him during that timeframe is the one found in the TSBD.  We also know that he lied to the DPD about owning any rifle.  Something he would only need to do if ownership of a rifle was incriminatory to him.   

Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11351
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #234 on: June 24, 2022, 07:10:54 PM »
So Oswald did buy a rifle in this timeframe?  And Marina and Ruth Paine can both confirm it!  Fantastic.  We don't need to argue with CTers about that anymore.

“Richard” thinks that CTs all march in lockstep. He’s confusing them with the WC-cult.

Anybody who actually pays attention to these conversations rather than just regurgitating the same series of false claims over and over again knows that Walt considers the Carcano purchase legitimate.

Quote
That basically cooks Oswald's goose since the only rifle that can be associated with him during that timeframe is the one found in the TSBD.

“Associated with him”. LOL.

Offline Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6008
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #235 on: June 24, 2022, 07:25:09 PM »
LOL, based on your ongoing rants there's no reason to believe you know what "logic" and "facts" mean.

No, it just takes a few seconds every time the claim appears in your confused rants. She can not confirm an otherwise unsupported claim.

You failed to quote the weakened part of her testimony stating the only specifics mentioned was the wooden part, allegedly, of what she took to be a rifle, surprise?

Plenty of non-CTers who don't, but nice try.

The wooden part of "it".  The rifle being the sole subject matter of the question that she is answering.  But, of course, you have dishonestly and incompletely quoted her testimony even on this point.  She referenced the "wooden stock" in her answer.  And what has a wooden stock?  Think real hard.  Maybe this helps:

"I was interested in finding out what was in that blanket, and I saw that it was a rifle." Marina Oswald.

Offline Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6008
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #236 on: June 24, 2022, 09:57:24 PM »
I doubt she ever saw a rifle not having wooden stock so mentioning that detail was entirely irrelevant.

The scope and home made sling was something different, which she chose NOT to mention.

What a surprise!

So because most rifles have a "wooden stock" you interpret Marina's confirmation that see saw a wooden stock to mean she saw something other than a rifle?  Wow.  That is head spinning tortured logic even from you.  What other types of objects with a wooden stock would be in a blanket?   Or just read what Marina said:

"I was interested in finding out what was in that blanket, and I saw that it was a rifle." Marina Oswald.


Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Ruthie Paine's Confusing Calendar
« Reply #237 on: June 24, 2022, 10:51:30 PM »
I doubt she ever saw a rifle not having wooden stock so mentioning that detail was entirely irrelevant.

The scope and home made sling was something different, which she chose NOT to mention.

What a surprise!

The scope and home made sling was something different,

It's commonly accepted that the sling was home made....  I believe it was custom sling that was made for Mussolini's elite body guards ( Guardie Del Duce ) who had to stand long hours on guard duty with the rifle on their shoulders. The wide patch on the sling kept the sling from pinching their shoulders.