If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?

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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2018, 03:14:23 PM »
I do believe we are making some progress here.

Since you don't believe 399 was planted, then how do you suppose it was found at Parkland ?

It certainly didn't fall off of JFK's gurney as that gurney was still in the trauma room that JFK was cooling off on.

Therefore, we know by the process of elimination that 399 must have been the bullet that wounded JBC. How else could it have gotten there ?
CE399 was a bullet that wounded JBC.  But that does not necessarily mean it caused all his wounds. It is possible, if not probable, his wounds were caused by separate bullets.

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Now, let's deal with JFK's back/throat wound.

Since we know that no bullet was found in JFK's neck, we know that the throat wound had to be an exit wound.

We know this by the process of elimination. Since there is no exit wound for a bullet entering JFK's throat, and no bullet found in his neck, the inescapable conclusion is that the bullet which struck him in the back had to have exited through his throat, causing that wound.

This isn't speculation, it's fact.

So now we have established that a bullet entered JFK's back, passed through him, and exited his throat.

Next, we must ask what happened to the bullet that passed throught JFK.

Since there is no bullet found in the limo, we must conclude that the bullet that passed through JFK, went on to wound JBC, and was the one recovered at Parkland, CE399.

How else could it have happened ?

As I've said before, the application of a little common sense and logical deductive reasoning is all that's necessary to arrive at the SINGLE BULLET FACT.
Logic alone does not solve facts. Evidence helps. 

The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second. JBC never realized that he was struck in the thigh or the wrist until the next day.  It is not uncommon for people to be hit by bullets and not realize it. The trajectory through JFK's neck goes to JBC's left.  There was only one wound on JBC's left side. The wound characteristics of the thigh wound are consistent with the condition of CE399 if it struck butt-first.  For some unknown reason, no one has ever even considered that possibility, let alone rejected it. 

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2018, 03:41:27 PM »
The evidence is very consistent that JFK was struck in the back/neck on the first shot and JBC was struck in the back on the second.

Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.

What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2018, 03:45:04 PM »
Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?

But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.
No good assuming something which you can't prove.
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What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?

Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2018, 03:58:31 PM »
No good assuming something which you can't prove.
Prove that the bullet hit JFK in the back and exited his throat.

Already did that, Ray. Read my posts above.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2018, 05:02:44 PM »

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2018, 05:06:21 PM »
Who said it had exited? No one proved that the upper back wound was connected to the wound in the throat.

I proved it in my posts above.

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Re: If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?
« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2018, 07:53:33 PM »
Nonsense. How much time do you think elapsed between the first and second shot ? How many shots do you have being fired ?
It doesn't matter what I think. What matters is what people who were there recalled. They recalled that the last two were in rapid succession. They recalled a pattern to to shots: the time between 2 and 3 was noticeably shorter than between 1 and 2. That necessarily means that there was only one shot before z250 , which is well after JFK began showing reaction to his throat wound.
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But for the sake of argument let's assume this preposterous suggestion that JFK is hit by the first shot and then JBC is hit by the second shot several seconds later (even though the Zap film clearly shows that both men are wounded simultaneously or in extremely close proxmity), is correct.
Why is it preposterous? How do you explain the evidence from many independent sources that JFK reacted to the first shot? Why did no one see JFK smile and wave for 3 seconds after the first shot?
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What happened to the bullet that hit JFK in the back and exited his throat ?
You tell me. All I can say is that it was travelling on a downward and right to left trajectory through JFK's neck exiting to the left of his tie knot, likely traveling straight but tumbling at about 1000 to 1500 feet per second. It would have travelled another 5 inches farther left before crossing the plane of JBC's seatback. This was well to the left of JBC'right armpit. Since it does not appear to have struck the car and it did not strike JFK's hands, it must have hit JBC. The question is where?. All I can say is that it was not his right armpit.
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