If a bullet didn't go through JFK, then exactly how did Connally get hit?

[John Mytton]

Why would SSA Kellerman "imagine" or "fabricate" hearing JFK speak?

Was he in fact a liar? The WC didn't say so, so what is your motivation Gee?

Harmful to the SB THEORY? 

Harmful to the SB THEORY? 

Oops!

Mr. SPECTER. All right. Now, describe what occurred as you proceeded down Elm Street after turning off of Houston.
Mr. KELLERMAN. As we turned off Houston onto Elm and made the short little dip to the left going down grade, as I said, we were away from buildings, and were there was a sign on the side of the road which I don't recall what it was or what it said, but we no more than passed that and you are out in the open, and there is a report like a firecracker, pop. And I turned my head to the right because whatever this noise was I was sure that it came from the right and perhaps into the rear, and as I turned my head to the right to view whatever it was or see whatever it was, I heard a voice from the back seat and I firmly believe it was the President's, "My God, I am hit," and I turned around and he has got his hands up here like this. 

Kellerman describes being near the sign and hearing a pop(SBF), in Zapruder as Kellerman passes behind the sign he is always looking towards his right.



Now in Zapruder we see both Kennedy and Connally reacting to Kellerman's "pop" and this is when Kellerman firmly believes he hears the President speak then finally turns around.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

Probably the same reason Rob's employment at Publix was ever relevant.

Was Rob employed at Publix? So what if he was!

Anyway, how does someone and something who isn't involved in this debate, DVP and his chicken shop, even get mentioned, it's just another Iacolettiesque attempt at deflection.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Was Rob employed at Publix? So what if he was!

Ask Paul May.  He used to bring it up on a regular basis.

Anyway, how does someone and something who isn't involved in this debate, DVP and his chicken shop, even get mentioned, it's just another Iacolettiesque attempt at deflection.

I didn't bring up DVP and his chicken shop.  But no doubt this will form the basis for another "Mytton" lie in a few months.

[John Mytton]

Ask Paul May.  He used to bring it up on a regular basis.

I didn't bring up DVP and his chicken shop.  But no doubt this will form the basis for another "Mytton" lie in a few months.

Ask Paul May.  He used to bring it up on a regular basis.

I don't care, why even mention it?

I didn't bring up DVP and his chicken shop.

No, the behaviour was Iacolettiesque? not specifically you but I wouldn't put it past you.

But no doubt this will form the basis for another "Mytton" lie in a few months.

As if I need any more ammunition, you are the gift that keeps on giving.

JohnM

[Howard Gee]

Why would SSA Kellerman "imagine" or "fabricate" hearing JFK speak?

Was he in fact a liar? The WC didn't say so, so what is your motivation Gee?

Harmful to the SB THEORY? 

Fratini, are you done wasting your time on me or not ? 

Fratini, it's really a shame you can't understand that witnesses make mistakes.

I never said that Kellerman fabricated or intentionally lied that he heard JFK say in a Boston accent that he was hit.

I'm saying Kellerman is confused and wrong.

And I can demonstrate that Kellerman was wrong.

The only time JFK could have said 'My god, I'm hit' is BEFORE the throat shot.

Even you should be able to understand that JFK didn't say anything AFTER the throat shot.

Unfortunately, you don't seem capable of understanding that if JFK said 'I'm hit' before the throat shot that would mean there are TWO bullets unaccounted for if you insist that CE399 didn't pass through JFK and go on to wound JBC.

You can try to account for one of the bullets by postulating it fell out during cardiac massage and was lost in sheets at Parkland or in the casket, but that still wouldn't explain what happened to the bullet that would have remained in JFK's throat.

You're really not very good at sifting through conflicting witness testimony and then using critical thinking and sound logic to figure out what is possible, impossible or unlikely.

Read my #242 again, a few dozen times, and you might understand the significance of JFK supposedly saying 'My god, I'm hit' and why Kellerman must have been wrong (not 'fabricating') about hearing him say it.

One of these years you might even come to understand why a frontal entry throat shot is an impossibility.

SINGLE BULLET FACT

[Howard Gee]

Jerry, I thought you were kidding about Andrew theorizing that both JFK and Connally were hit by the first shot and that JFK's only reaction was to stop smiling and waving, and that JBC wasn't even aware he was hit. 

YIKES.

[Andrew Mason]

Jerry, I thought you were kidding about Andrew theorizing that both JFK and Connally were hit by the first shot and that JFK's only reaction was to stop smiling and waving, and that JBC wasn't even aware he was hit. 

YIKES.

Jerry editorializes.

 To be clear, I am not saying that JBC was hit in the back on the first shot. I am saying he was not.
I am not suggesting he did not feel the back wound. John Mcloy suggested that. JBC said he felt he immediately and there is no reason to think he was mistaken.

 Nor did I ever suggest that JFK's sole reaction to being hit on the first shot was to stop smiling and waving. I have simply pointed out that there is an awful lot of evidence that JFK reacted to the first shot immediately. According to that evidence, which I set out for you to read, he reacted by moving to the left, clutching at his chest and neck and assuming a blank facial expression.