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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #464 on: December 23, 2019, 03:04:39 PM »
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It’s a question of when Oswald would have read the newspaper

If it is not until Thursday, then the reason is it’s risky to take a rifle in a package into Dealey plaza on Friday morning,let alone into some other building

On the other hand, if Oswald read the Tuesday paper then he had more than enough time to explore Dealey plaza, select some spot or building, and to carry a package with rifle. If William Castor could walk around carrying TWO rifles as well as EXHIBIT them without any DPD , FBI, or other security being alarmed, then surely Oswald could have probably done so with just ONE package

It would have been impossible to check every person who entered a building along the parade route.  Imagine the resources to do that in every city the president visited?  That would have entailed securing hundreds of large buildings and tens of thousands of people.  An impossible task.  They certainly wouldn't have done that days before the presidential motorcade when Caster brought his rifles.  Assassinating the president entails risk.  But getting the rifle into a building in which he worked wasn't that difficult.   Oswald knew the movements and patterns of his coworkers, likely had a hiding spot and shooting location predetermined.  That morning he goes straight up to the 6th floor and hides his rifle.  My guess is that he hid it near where his clipboard was later found on the 6th floor.  The last thing he did before picking up the rifle package was to put his clipboard down.  He used his clipboard to give the appearance of doing work on the 6th floor in case he encountered anyone while he was lingering up there.  Once the coast is clear he puts it down, picks up the rifle package, and makes his way to the SN.  Frazier was likely his biggest concern.  He would have known Oswald's movements were out of the ordinary that week, that he carried a long package to work, and that the presidential motorcade was passing the building that day.   He had more pieces than anyone else but at that time it was unthinkable by most people that anyone would shoot the president.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #465 on: December 23, 2019, 03:44:52 PM »
It would have been impossible to check every person who entered a building along the parade route.  Imagine the resources to do that in every city the president visited?  That would have entailed securing hundreds of large buildings and tens of thousands of people.  An impossible task.  They certainly wouldn't have done that days before the presidential motorcade when Caster brought his rifles.  Assassinating the president entails risk.  But getting the rifle into a building in which he worked wasn't that difficult.   Oswald knew the movements and patterns of his coworkers, likely had a hiding spot and shooting location predetermined.  That morning he goes straight up to the 6th floor and hides his rifle.  My guess is that he hid it near where his clipboard was later found on the 6th floor.  The last thing he did before picking up the rifle package was to put his clipboard down.  He used his clipboard to give the appearance of doing work on the 6th floor in case he encountered anyone while he was lingering up there.  Once the coast is clear he puts it down, picks up the rifle package, and makes his way to the SN.  Frazier was likely his biggest concern.  He would have known Oswald's movements were out of the ordinary that week, that he carried a long package to work, and that the presidential motorcade was passing the building that day.   He had more pieces than anyone else but at that time it was unthinkable by most people that anyone would shoot the president.

My guess is that he hid it near where his clipboard was later found on the 6th floor.

Indeed, your entire story is a guess

at that time it was unthinkable by most people that anyone would shoot the president.

Yeah right, after all there had only been assassination attempts on FDR in 1933, on Truman in 1947 and 1950 and Kennedy himself in 1960.


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« Reply #466 on: December 23, 2019, 08:33:54 PM »
It would have been impossible to check every person who entered a building along the parade route.  Imagine the resources to do that in every city the president visited?  That would have entailed securing hundreds of large buildings and tens of thousands of people.  An impossible task.  They certainly wouldn't have done that days before the presidential motorcade when Caster brought his rifles.  Assassinating the president entails risk.  But getting the rifle into a building in which he worked wasn't that difficult.   Oswald knew the movements and patterns of his coworkers, likely had a hiding spot and shooting location predetermined.  That morning he goes straight up to the 6th floor and hides his rifle.  My guess is that he hid it near where his clipboard was later found on the 6th floor.  The last thing he did before picking up the rifle package was to put his clipboard down.  He used his clipboard to give the appearance of doing work on the 6th floor in case he encountered anyone while he was lingering up there.  Once the coast is clear he puts it down, picks up the rifle package, and makes his way to the SN.  Frazier was likely his biggest concern.  He would have known Oswald's movements were out of the ordinary that week, that he carried a long package to work, and that the presidential motorcade was passing the building that day.   He had more pieces than anyone else but at that time it was unthinkable by most people that anyone would shoot the president.

Well said, as usual.

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« Reply #467 on: December 23, 2019, 08:49:42 PM »
This has all been asked before. Everything has.
 "I saw him do it'' witnesses were rounded up were they not? [even if they didn't see anything]..but phony ones were not required or even desirable.
Were they there to watch the parade or gaze at the windows? There was already enough 'evidence'.
"Paine saw the rifle"? She didn't because there was no rifle in her garage. If she said there was anyway..it would have raised too many more questions.
Marina had already told the cops that Oswald bore no animosity toward JFK...so she couldn't very well tell the Commission any differently.

Freeman,

Self-avowed Marxist Lee Harvey Oswald (or, indeed, Nikita Khrushchev and/or Fidel Castro) didn't have to bear any personal animosity towards JFK to kill him for ideological reasons, i.e., "to advance The Dialectic".

D'oh

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« Reply #468 on: December 23, 2019, 10:27:46 PM »
Self-avowed Marxist Lee Harvey Oswald (or, indeed, Nikita Khrushchev and/or Fidel Castro) didn't have to bear any personal animosity towards JFK to kill him for ideological reasons, i.e., "to advance The Dialectic".
So Fidel and/or Nikita sat Oswald down [sometime/somewhere/somehow] and told him to get a rifle and a job at the TSBD on the 1st of November because they happened to know that JFK would be riding by in a parade weeks later and when he does---shoot him like a good little Marxist-Manchurian candidate ...A better story [and more entertaining] than the Smith-Chapman ["Well said" attaboy pat pat] yarn above ........   
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« Reply #469 on: December 23, 2019, 10:51:00 PM »
So Fidel and/or Nikita sat Oswald down [sometime/somewhere/somehow] and told him to get a rifle and a job at the TSBD on the 1st of November because they happened to know that JFK would be riding by in a parade weeks later and when he does---shoot him like a good little Marxist-Manchurian candidate ...A better story [and more entertaining] than the Smith-Chapman ["Well said" attaboy pat pat] yarn above ........

told him to get a rifle and a job at the TSBD on the 1st of November because they happened to know that JFK would be riding by in a parade weeks later and when he does---shoot him like a good little Marxist-Manchurian candidate

I'd be embarrassed if I posted such an absurd idea....

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« Reply #470 on: December 23, 2019, 11:37:12 PM »
I'd be embarrassed if I posted such an absurd idea....
You mean Tommy saying Khrushchev killed Kennedy? He has been for the last 10 years AFAIK
   But getting the rifle into a building in which he worked wasn't that difficult.   Oswald knew the movements and patterns of his coworkers, likely had a hiding spot and shooting location predetermined.  That morning he goes straight up to the 6th floor and hides his rifle.  My guess is that he hid it near where his clipboard was later found on the 6th floor.  The last thing he did before picking up the rifle package was to put his clipboard down.  He used his clipboard to give the appearance of doing work on the 6th floor in case he encountered anyone while he was lingering up there.  Once the coast is clear he puts it down, picks up the rifle package, and makes his way to the SN.  Frazier was likely his biggest concern.  He would have known Oswald's movements were out of the ordinary that week, that he carried a long package to work, and that the presidential motorcade was passing the building that day.   He had more pieces than anyone else but at that time it was unthinkable by most people that anyone would shoot the president.
"my guess"....Admits it is all guesswork but such a novel has already been done.
 Ever read "Portrait of the Assassin" ...Gerald R Ford ?? [Only Ford didn't really write it] It is a rather hysterical narrative written like Alice in Wonderland. It should be called.... Portrait of an Imaginary Derelict

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« Reply #471 on: December 24, 2019, 12:14:37 AM »
Iacoletti,

Do you still think the three people on the Pergola Patio in Towner might be men, wearing Bermuda shorts to a presidential motorcade on a cool, blustery late November day in conservative 1963 Dallas, Texas?

And that one of the dudes is wearing ... gasp ... a light blue headscarf?

LOL

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