Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[Bill Chapman]

Yes, because somebody sitting in a theater box a few feet away from a person who has just been shot is exactly the same as someone a block or two away a few minutes later who didn't see anything happen.

And you call me nutty...

A citizen hears gunshots in the neighbourhood and a few moments later a 'random guy' walks by carrying a handgun. The citizen later identifies this particular 'random guy' as Oswald. Tell us where that would not help in the case against Oswald.

[John Iacoletti]

So it is possible to witness a crime without seeing someone pull the trigger?  And this analysis depends somehow on how far away the witness is?  Who ID'd Oswald as the Tippit shooter by seeing him a few minutes later?

Well, apparently Bill Brown thinks that Ted Callaway did.

[Martin Weidmann]

I'm waiting for the lightning to strike.  Let me get this one straight.  You don't "really care about Oswald one way or the other."  And have never advocated his guilt or innocence?  LOL.  You are just here night and day taking exception to every post that suggests he is guilty.  When given the choice between an obvious, common sense interpretation of the evidence that lends itself to Oswald's guilt and a wildly improbable, baseless and often laughable one that might create doubt, you go with the latter in every instance.  You are self-delusional if you believe that.  What you are is a closet CTer.  The worst kind.  Too afraid to have the courage of your convictions because you understand the inherent weakness of your case.  Thus, the lazy contrarian mentality that you don't have to prove anything.

the inherent weakness of your case

I have no case, fool.... That only exists in your paranoid mind

And you call me delusional? Go figure...

Here's a deal for you; show me a solid piece of evidence that holds up under scrutiny and I will agree that it points to Oswald's guilt.

Would that make you happy?

[Bill Brown]

So it is possible to witness a crime without seeing someone pull the trigger?  And this analysis depends somehow on how far away the witness is?  Who ID'd Oswald as the Tippit shooter by seeing him a few minutes later?

Well, apparently Bill Brown thinks that Ted Callaway did.

First of all, Callaway saw Oswald run by with a gun in his hands and wearing an Eisenhower-type jacket moments after the shooting, not minutes.

Anyway, Markham saw Oswald shoot Tippit.  Scoggins saw the same man that Markham saw.  Scoggins saw this man run from Tippit's patrol car towards Patton, cut across the Davis lawn and head down Patton towards Jefferson.  Both Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis saw the same man that Scoggins saw.  The Davis sisters saw this man cut across their lawn and turn the corner onto Patton.  Callaway saw the same man coming from Tenth, cutting through the Davis yard towards Scoggins hiding beside his cab, running down Patton with a gun in his hands.

When pieced together, Callaway saw Tippit's killer.

One does not have to see the killing to see the killer.

[John Iacoletti]

First of all, Callaway saw Oswald run by with a gun in his hands and wearing an Eisenhower-type jacket moments after the shooting, not minutes.

Oh brother.  How many "moments" are in a minute?  When did Callaway ever say "moments" anyway?

Anyway, Markham saw Oswald shoot Tippit.  Scoggins saw the same man that Markham saw.  Scoggins saw this man run from Tippit's patrol car towards Patton, cut across the Davis lawn and head down Patton towards Jefferson.  Both Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis saw the same man that Scoggins saw.  The Davis sisters saw this man cut across their lawn and turn the corner onto Patton.  Callaway saw the same man coming from Tenth, cutting through the Davis yard towards Scoggins hiding beside his cab, running down Patton with a gun in his hands.

Correction:

Markham saw a man shoot Tippit who she identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
Scoggins saw a man going south on Patton who he identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
The Davis sisters-in-law saw a man going across their lawn who they identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
Callaway saw a man running south on Patton who he identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.

That doesn't necessarily mean that they all saw Oswald or that they even saw the same man.

[Bill Brown]

Oh brother.  How many "moments" are in a minute?  When did Callaway ever say "moments" anyway?

Correction:

Markham saw a man shoot Tippit who she identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
Scoggins saw a man going south on Patton who he identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
The Davis sisters-in-law saw a man going across their lawn who they identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.
Callaway saw a man running south on Patton who he identified as Oswald in an unfair lineup.

That doesn't necessarily mean that they all saw Oswald or that they even saw the same man.

Well then feel free to prove that these witnesses saw different men.

Claim the lineups were unfair.  Okay.

Claim the witness identification was wrong and it was not Oswald who they saw.  Okay.

But, to claim that these witnesses saw different men is dangerously close to taking up residence in Kookville.

[John Mytton]

So people impersonating SS agents gives you no pause? Of course not as you have your patsy already picked out.

So people impersonating SS agents gives you no pause?

Sure if you had some corroboration and your SS agents were somewhere closer to Elm street but alas all you have is the word of one person seeing SS agents somewhere in the suburbs, so what?

Of course not as you have your patsy already picked out.

You say Oswald was a lousy shot and liked Kennedy, who in their right mind would pick Oswald to be a Patsy?



JohnM