Oswald's Light-Colored Jacket

[John Iacoletti]

By John's nutty logic no one in Ford's Theatre witnessed John Wilkes Booth shoot Lincoln.   They just heard a shot and looked in his direction to see him pointing a gun at Lincoln's head.  Thus, they did not actually witness a crime.

Yes, because somebody sitting in a theater box a few feet away from a person who has just been shot is exactly the same as someone a block or two away a few minutes later who didn't see anything happen.

And you call me nutty...

[John Iacoletti]

Martin has harped on this being only a "circumstantial" evidence case apparently misunderstanding that this term doesn't mean weak.

True, but in this case the little evidence that you have is both circumstantial and weak.

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin has harped on this being only a "circumstantial" evidence case apparently misunderstanding that this term doesn't mean weak.  He now informs us that direct evidence can't be trusted either.  That really narrows things down!  We are finally getting to the center of the lollipop, though.  At its heart what John and Martin are contending is that nothing can ever be proven if they don't like the implications.  The case against Oswald is the collective product of lies, fakery, unfairness, coincidence, police incompetence, chance, being unlucky, but never Oswald's guilt.

This might come as a shock to you, Richie, but if you had paid attention you would have noticed that I have never written one post in which I advocated Oswald's innocence or guilt. I don't really care about Oswald one way or the other. I'm here for the case against him....

Martin has harped on this being only a "circumstantial" evidence case apparently misunderstanding that this term doesn't mean weak.

Apparently? Are you a mind reader now?

He now informs us that direct evidence can't be trusted either. 

No I didn't. Stop making up things.

At its heart what John and Martin are contending is that nothing can ever be proven if they don't like the implications.

Oh boy, now he's a serial mind reader ... where will it end?

The case against Oswald is the collective product of lies, fakery, unfairness, coincidence, police incompetence, chance, being unlucky, but never Oswald's guilt.


Stop whining and show us some evidence that will stand up under scrutiny

[John Iacoletti]

Stop whining and show us some evidence that will stand up under scrutiny

Richard is a one trick pony.  Strawmen and insults.

[Richard Smith]

This might come as a shock to you, Richie, but if you had paid attention you would have noticed that I have never written one post in which I advocated Oswald's innocence or guilt. I don't really care about Oswald one way or the other. I'm here for the case against him....

I'm waiting for the lightning to strike.  Let me get this one straight.  You don't "really care about Oswald one way or the other."  And have never advocated his guilt or innocence?  LOL.  You are just here night and day taking exception to every post that suggests he is guilty.  When given the choice between an obvious, common sense interpretation of the evidence that lends itself to Oswald's guilt and a wildly improbable, baseless and often laughable one that might create doubt, you go with the latter in every instance.  You are self-delusional if you believe that.  What you are is a closet CTer.  The worst kind.  Too afraid to have the courage of your convictions because you understand the inherent weakness of your case.  Thus, the lazy contrarian mentality that you don't have to prove anything.

[John Iacoletti]

And when Richard says "obvious, common sense interpretation", he means his unsupported opinion.

[Richard Smith]

Yes, because somebody sitting in a theater box a few feet away from a person who has just been shot is exactly the same as someone a block or two away a few minutes later who didn't see anything happen.

And you call me nutty...

So it is possible to witness a crime without seeing someone pull the trigger?  And this analysis depends somehow on how far away the witness is?  Who ID'd Oswald as the Tippit shooter by seeing him a few minutes later?