LNers: Your Views of the Missed Shot?

[Bill Chapman]

Actually, these images show us a lot. They show us that CTers can see gunmen in almost any image from Dealey Plaza taken on November 22, 1963. They don?t tell us a lot about what happened. But they give us lots of insight into the minds of CTers.
I wonder if while in Kindergarten, if they could always spot Waldo immediately, but usually in the wrong place.

It's funny when CTers accuses LNers of seeing what we want to see, and at the same time let these whack jobs who see shooters everywhere off scot free.

[Bill Chapman]

Same question I gave to Jerry - what happened to the 3rd bullet if Tague was injured by a fragment?  And why is a shallow back wound physically impossible?  To me, this is the main evidence that the MC, firing nearly 20 year old ammo, was involved at all.

The Medical Evidence
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/medical.htm

Probing a wound.

Conspiracy books place great emphasis on the fact that the autopsists were unable to probe the wound in Kennedy?s back more than a inch or so into the body. They believe that this proves that the bullet didn?t penetrate more then an inch or so. Forensic pathologists don?t accept this idea.

The following is a quote from the Forensic Pathology Panel of the House Select Committee on Assassinations:

(430)" The panel believes that the difficulty which Drs. Humes, Finck, and Boswell experienced in trying to place a soft probe through the bullet pathway in President Kennedy?s neck probably resulted from their failure or inability to manipulate this portion of the body into the same position it was in when the missile penetrated. Rigor mortis may have hindered this manipulation. Such placement would have enabled reconstruction of the relationships of the neck and shoulder when the missile struck. It is customary, however, to dissect missile tracks to determine damage and pathway. Probing a track blindly may produce false tracks and misinformation."

[Mitch Todd]

Same question I gave to Jerry - what happened to the 3rd bullet if Tague was injured by a fragment?  And why is a shallow back wound physically impossible?  To me, this is the main evidence that the MC, firing nearly 20 year old ammo, was involved at all.

1.) Who said there were three shots? What if there were only two?

2.) The problems with a shallow back wound:

a) Ruby shot Oswald with a snub-nose .38 special revolver. It's not a particularly penetrating projectile. Still, the bullet went from one side of Oswald to the other. A rifle bullet at any normal velocity would go at least as far.

b)According to the Edgewood tests, the 6.5 Carcano bullets they tested only lost 400fps travelling completely through a simulated human neck made of meat covered with goatskin. Other experiments had determine that it takes a rifle-caliber steel ball about 150fps just to penetrate the skin. So a bullet that only burrows in an inch or so to the body is going to impact JFK travelling on the order of 200-400ft/sec. At 200ft/sec a bullet fired from 200ft away has a 1 second flight time, and will drop 1/2*(32.2ft/s/s)*1s = 16 feet. A bullet travelling at 400ft/sec will fly for 0.5sec and similarly drop 4 feet. So, to hit JFK with such a pokey projectile, the shooter would have to be aiming for a point several feet above JFK's head, which doesn't make sense.

c.) If the bullet was stopped by the spine, it would have caused severe damage to the vertebra.

[Steve Taylor]

1.) Who said there were three shots? What if there were only two?

a. 3 shell casings in the alleged SN, the majority of earwitnesses, the original FBI report
b.  Someone planted 1 too many shells in the SN

[John Iacoletti]

Despite weirdly prevalent assertions to the contrary, a ?shallow back wound? is physically impossible.   

No it isn't.  What an absurd claim.

[John Iacoletti]

Which "variation" of the SBT was proposed during the autopsy? I've never read that happened. From what I've read the autopsy doctors never considered the wounds on Connally. Why would they? Their job was to determine the cause of the injuries to JFK not Connally. Moreover, Humes said (the JAMA article, for example) they couldn't figure out where the bullet that entered the back went to. It wasn't until the next morning when he called Perry and learned that the tracheotomy covered a wound to the throat that he concluded it had exited there.

That was the story.  But Dr. Robert Livingston said he called Humes prior to the autopsy and told him about the throat wound.

[John Iacoletti]

Actually, these images show us a lot. They show us that CTers can see gunmen in almost any image from Dealey Plaza taken on November 22, 1963. They don?t tell us a lot about what happened. But they give us lots of insight into the minds of CTers.
I wonder if while in Kindergarten, if they could always spot Waldo immediately, but usually in the wrong place.

You know what nobody sees in any image from Dealey Plaza taken on November 22, 1963?

Lee Harvey Oswald.