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Offline Paul J Cummings

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #630 on: May 28, 2022, 02:27:05 PM »
I have my facts as well and presented them. It's not like I'm throwing out only opinions. Best of luck.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #631 on: May 28, 2022, 06:27:52 PM »
I have my facts as well and presented them. It's not like I'm throwing out only opinions. Best of luck.

Unfortunately you're allowing others like Roger Craig to present BS and you believe them....

I sincerely wish that Roger Craig hadn't been so egotistical and could have admitted that he was had made a mistake. Craig had some good information but unfortunately he destroyed his credibility by prevaricating. 

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« Reply #632 on: June 05, 2022, 12:53:24 AM »
Walt, I've agreed with many of your opinions, but can't do so here. It would be much easier to call Craig a liar if we didn't have the testimony of Seymour Weitzman. As a former owner of a sporting goods store and knowledgeable on firearms, when Weitzman identifies a weapon as a 7.65 Mauser with a 2.5 Weaver scope, I tend to believe him. Eugene Boone was also there. There was also a report of a British Enfield being found. I have no problem believing multiple weapons were found and I have grave doubts whether Oswald or the Carcano fired any shots that day.

Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #633 on: June 05, 2022, 01:08:07 AM »
It's not nonsense? From the Book "High Treason" pg 144. "Deputy Eugene Boone and and I (Craig) found the rifle which I might add was a 7.65 Mauser, so stamped on the barrel. Weitzman signed an affidavit to the this effect."

"High Treason pg 229. Affidavits sworn at the time of the assassination by Deputy Sheriff Seymour Weitzman state the gun was a German Mauser.

Weitzman- a man with extensive experience in guns, who owned gun shops, who had a graduate degree in Engineering-that the gun was a Mauser, a favored weapon of snipers.

That's pure hogwash they didn't know what type of gun it was until Saturday. So a FULL day after the assassination with FBI, Police and SS nobody could identify the gun until the next day? This gun that killed the President wasn't identified until the next day doesn't hold your claim.

Spot on.

Top experts were brought into Dallas and the absurd claim that it would take a day to determine the make of the rifle is completely absurd.

Roger Craig identified the rifle as a Mauser due to the stamp embedded on the rifle. That is a solid eyewitness account.

Weitzman also agreed it was a Mauser as well. He was an owner of a sporting goods store so he was familiar with rifles. When he testified later, he changed his story and claimed he only "glanced" at the rifle.

That's an absurd statement to make. Why would a Sheriff just "glance" at the potential murder weapon that just killed Kennedy? He would give it a thorough inspection.         

Weitzman changed his story and Roger Craig never did. 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #634 on: June 05, 2022, 01:12:59 AM »
Walt, I've agreed with many of your opinions, but can't do so here. It would be much easier to call Craig a liar if we didn't have the testimony of Seymour Weitzman. As a former owner of a sporting goods store and knowledgeable on firearms, when Weitzman identifies a weapon as a 7.65 Mauser with a 2.5 Weaver scope, I tend to believe him. Eugene Boone was also there. There was also a report of a British Enfield being found. I have no problem believing multiple weapons were found and I have grave doubts whether Oswald or the Carcano fired any shots that day.

Ya know Jim, I believe the word "liar" is a bit strong when referring to Roger Craig.    I believe that Craig simply had a gargantuan ego and hated to be wrong. He was a BS er.....    He had heard Weitzman speculate that the rifle lying on the floor beneath the pallet of books, when Weitzman guessed that the rifle looked like a mauser.  Craig took that WAG to heart and acted as if it was his WAG....    His ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he was wrong.....Thus several months later he attempted to bolster his declaration that the rifle was a mauser by declaring that he had seem "7.65 Mauser, stamped right there on the barrel"  .

Anybody with one good eye can see for themselves that the rifle that detective  JC Day lifted up to the cameras is a Model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano short rifle ( often erroneously called a "Carcano carbine." ) 

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #635 on: June 05, 2022, 01:19:51 AM »
Ya know Jim, I believe the word "liar" is a bit strong when referring to Roger Craig. I believe that Craig simply had a gargantuan ego and hated to be wrong. He was a BS er.....    He had heard Weitzman speculate that the rifle lying on the floor beneath the pallet of books, when Weitzman guessed that the rifle looked like a mauser.  Craig took that WAG to heart and acted as if it was his WAG....    His ego wouldn't allow him to admit that he was wrong.....Thus several months later he attempted to bolster his declaration that the rifle was a mauser by declaring that he had seem "7.65 Mauser, stamped right there on the barrel"  .

Anybody with one good eye can see for themselves that the rifle that detective  JC Day lifted up to the cameras is a Model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano short rifle ( often erroneously called a "Carcano carbine." )

Walt is just speculating on what he "believes". There is absolutely no real evidence to make this assertion that Craig had an "ego" or was a "bs er".

How can Weitzman "guess it was a Mauser" when the Mauser stamp is embedded on the rifle? That stamp is there for a reason. All one would have to do is read the stamp to determine it was a Mauser.   

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #636 on: June 05, 2022, 01:28:21 AM »
Walt is just speculating on what he "believes". There is absolutely no real evidence to make this assertion that Craig had an "ego" or was a "bs er".

How can Weitzman "guess it was a Mauser" when the Mauser stamp is embedded on the rifle? That stamp is there for a reason. All one would have to do is read the stamp to determine it was a Mauser.

There's little doubt that RC was a BS er....  Anybody who has listened to him can verify that he was a BSer.

Please show me a photo of a rifle from the TSBD that has the word "MAUSER" stamped on it.