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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #378 on: February 18, 2021, 01:00:23 AM »
Is the rifle straight?

I'd love to answer that question but i'm not sure what it is that you are asking......Are you asking if the rifle barrel aligns with the stock ?

Forget it, my mistake.

Forgive what is probably a dumb question, but the rifle is laid down on its side here, right? It just looks that way (to my eyes anyway) with the barrel but not with the stock?

« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 01:12:01 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #379 on: February 18, 2021, 01:12:21 AM »
Forget it, my mistake

You asked a question....Is the rifle straight?   No, the rifle is NOT straight!....the barrel doe not align with the stock....the barrel appears to be twisted relative to the stock.....   Although this is hard to discern the barrel seems to be rotated slightly counterclockwise relative to the stock.


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #380 on: February 18, 2021, 02:07:05 AM »
You asked a question....Is the rifle straight?   No, the rifle is NOT straight!....the barrel doe not align with the stock....the barrel appears to be twisted relative to the stock.....   Although this is hard to discern the barrel seems to be rotated slightly counterclockwise relative to the stock.

I edited my last post, Mr Cakebread

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #381 on: February 18, 2021, 02:46:36 AM »
I edited my last post, Mr Cakebread

Sorry, if you don't like the answer.....

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #382 on: February 18, 2021, 03:02:52 AM »
Sorry, if you don't like the answer.....

Maybe try reading my edit before assuming I don't like the answer

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #383 on: February 18, 2021, 04:26:11 AM »
Maybe try reading my edit before assuming I don't like the answer

I didn't see this in your post... Possibly a pop up obscured it....   Damn pop-ups 
My apology  Mr F..... Sorry.

the rifle is laid down on its side here, right? It just looks that way (to my eyes anyway) with the barrel but not with the stock?

No, the rifle is not on it's side  ( But the men who saw the rifle on the floor said that it was lying on it's side, and the Alyea film shows Lt Day reach out and grab the leather sling....which verifies he eyewitness description of the orientation of the rifle,  and Lt Day could not have reached that leather sling if the rifle had been standing with the leather sling on the far side of the rifle.

the rifle is laid down on its side here, right? It just looks that way ---- with the barrel but not with the stock?

The barrel does appear to be twisted in relation to the stock, but the rifle is not lying on it's side. .
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 04:40:16 AM by Walt Cakebread »

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Roger Craig
« Reply #384 on: February 18, 2021, 01:38:52 PM »
I was looking for the shadow of the rifle.
Looking at the box that obscures the rifle it is possible to get a general idea of which way the shadow falls.
It should be possible to see the shadow of the end of the butt of the rifle being cast away and to the left from the PoV of the camera and I believe it is.
In the pic below note the white reflection of the camera flash on the stock of the rifle.
Note, that towards the butt of the rifle this reflection stops abruptly but there is still a dark patch.
I believe the dark patch is shadow which is why it is not reflecting the camera flash:



On a different point - I noticed that there is a box resting on top of the box that obscures most of the rifle.
This means the rifle was slid along the ground from the left or that the rifle was placed in there and at least one box was then placed over the gap. If it wasn't possible to slide the rifle in from the left we can't seriously assume Oswald took the time to mess about putting boxes over where he hid the rifle:



I also note a small white cloth next to the rifle. Is this what Oswald was supposed to have wiped the rifle down with? I can't find any mention of it anywhere.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2021, 01:40:21 PM by Dan O'meara »