Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #91 on: September 06, 2018, 02:40:28 PM »
Mr. SPECTER. When, if at all, did you first report what you had observed in the Texas School Book Depository Building about the man with the rifle to anyone in an official position?
Mr. ROWLAND. That was approximately 15 minutes after the third report that I went to an officer, he was a plainclothesman who was there combing the area, close to position "C," looking for footprints and such as this, some lady said someone jumped off one of the colonnades and started running, there was an officer looking in this area for footprints and such as this.
Mr. SPECTER. Was that lady ever identified to you?
Mr. ROWLAND. No; I do not remember his name. He introduced himself and showed me his ID.
Mr. SPECTER. I mean the lady you talked about.
Mr. ROWLAND. No; I don't.
Mr. SPECTER. Now as to the officer to whom you made a report, was he a State, City or Federal official, if you know?
Mr. ROWLAND. It was a Dallas detective.

Mr. BELIN. Did anyone say they had seen anything?such as a rifle?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes; later on. A few minutes after that?I had taken this girl to one of our criminal investigators?and was talking to some other people. I talked to a young couple and the boy said he saw two men on the?uh?sixth floor of the Book Depository Building over there; one of them had a rifle with the telescopic sight on it?but he thought they were Secret Service agents on guard and didn't report it. This was about?uh?oh, he said, 15 minutes before the motorcade ever arrived.
Mr. BELIN. Do you remember if that boy's name would have been Arnold Rowland?(spelling) R-o-w-l-a-n-d?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes.
Mr. BELIN. Does that sound like it?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes; it sounds like the name?yes.
Mr. BELIN. His wife might be Barbara Rowland?
Mr. CRAIG. Yes; I believe her name was Barbara.

The "two men on the 6th floor,....one with a rifle" could only have come from Arnold Rowland.

Hence Arnold had corroboration from a law enforcement officer some 10 - 15 minutes post assassination while in Dealey Plaza.

The WC did not need to introduce other witnesses to dispel Rowland's fabrications. He did that all an his own with his own contradictory testimony. Six different times in his statement he is shown to be lying. Great witness, why wouldn't anyone believe him.

Craig doesn't even corroborate Rowland's story. In his WC statement Craig  states the men were both in the SW corner and they were both white. No where near what Rowland had stated. Both Rowland and Craig never mention an additional person until they appear in front of the commission.
The whole story is made up from start to finish.

They should have been charged for deliberately fabricating stories to the commission.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2018, 02:58:51 PM »
Craig doesn't even corroborate Rowland's story. In his WC statement Craig  states the men were both in the SW corner and they were both white. No where near what Rowland had stated.
Where does he state that?


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2018, 05:29:27 PM »
Carolyn Walther, she of "She is positive this window was not as high as the sixth floor"?
Ruby Henderson, who's account sounds a lot like her seeing Jarman and Norman?
The Norm Similas whom the RCMP decided was a hoax? The Similas who claimed that a Secret Service agent opened the door of the limo in Dealey Plaza to reveal JFK on the floor?
The Johnny Powell who pops out of the woodwork a decade and a half later?

Fair enough.  As opposed to:

Howard "failed to identify" Brennan
Charles "willing to change his story for money" Givens
Amos "he had a bald spot" Euins
Helen "I had never seen none of them" Markham
Jack Tatum who pops out of the woodwork a decade and a half later?

As for Ruby Henderson describing Norman and Jarman, Norman and Jarman weren't even in the same window.  Also which one of them was wearing a white shirt?

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2018, 05:37:14 PM »
The WC did not need to introduce other witnesses to dispel Rowland's fabrications. He did that all an his own with his own contradictory testimony.

Contradictory testimony didn't seem to phase them much when it came to people like Brennan, Markham, Marina, Day, etc.

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Six different times in his statement he is shown to be lying.

Really?  Lying?  Where?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2018, 11:50:42 PM »
My impression is that he might have seen Doughtery or Oswald. The man might have had something in his hands that Rowland mistook for a rifle.

Hmmm...then I wonder if the guy Brennan saw might have had something in his hands that Brennan mistook for a rifle.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #96 on: September 06, 2018, 11:53:47 PM »
Fair enough.  As opposed to:

Howard "failed to identify" Brennan
Charles "willing to change his story for money" Givens
Amos "he had a bald spot" Euins
Helen "I had never seen none of them" Markham
Jack Tatum who pops out of the woodwork a decade and a half later?

As for Ruby Henderson describing Norman and Jarman, Norman and Jarman weren't even in the same window.  Also which one of them was wearing a white shirt?

Hahahaha!

Brennan swore an oath that he saw Oswald.
Givens says he saw Oswald at what, 11:55 big deal. Btw didn't a policeman say your money quote.
Oswald had a receding hairline which would be observed as a bald spot to suggest that Amos could look down on the top of Oswald's head while he was 6 floors below is just more absurdity.

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Helen testifies that she saw the number 2 man kill Tippit.
Norman heard someone with a bolt action rifle shooting and ejecting shells directly above his head.

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Re: Why didn't the Conspirators plant Eyewitnesses in Dealey Plaza?
« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2018, 12:26:44 AM »
Don't all witnesses have to swear an oath? Why was Brennan so special in his oath?

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Don't all witnesses have to swear an oath?

Yes.

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Why was Brennan so special in his oath?

I simply stated a fact.

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