Whose Target was General Edwin Walker?

[Walt Cakebread]

So you can't cite a report, huh?

Pssst Robbie... Have you ever heard the old axiom.....  "A single picture is worth a thousand words."  ?

Well if one picture is worth a thousand words.... and there are dozens of photos that show the rifle and PROVE that it was a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano, why would you want a written report??    Clearly you are irrational.

[Howard Gee]

which means that the bottom of the barrel that Day referred to was about 1/2 inch wide. ( 1/4 of 2 inches.)

Nope. If the barrel is two inches wide, the top and bottom sides are both two inches wide. What makes you think the underside of the barrel is narrower than the top side ?

Were the bottom sides of the Red Rings narrower than the top sides ?   

More 'bottom of the barrel' nonsense from Walt. Get your head out !

[Jerry Freeman]

Have you ever heard the old axiom.....  "A single picture is worth a thousand words."  ?

This is from the Gil Jesus blog page....[Note the red circles]

Photo in the HSCA Report. Where is the sling/mounts? [On the other side?]
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95#relPageId=449&tab=page
 

ATTEMPTED MURDER OF GENERAL WALKER
The WC tried to link Oswald and Mannlicher Carcano C2766 to the attempted murder of General Edwin Walker on April 10th 1963. In 1978 the HSCA commissioned Neutron activation tests on the remnants of the bullet CE 573 fired at Walker. The tests were conducted by Dr Vincent P. Guinn who testified that CE573 was "rather characteristic of WCC Mannlicher-Carcano bullet ." This language was typical of that used throughout the WC and HSCA investigations and tends to mislead rather than inform. There was no such thing as a "Mannlicher Carcano bullet". What Dr Guinn should have said was "a 6.5MM WCC bullet that was suitable for a range of weapons including a Mannlicher Carcano 6.5MM."

 
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mauser_reports.htm
 So much for the 'experts'.
 

[Walt Cakebread]

There's a case where a palmprint partial was obtained from a .38 Special cartridge, which is considerably smaller than the Carcano rifle barrel (roughly 3/8" vs. 5/8").


The print in the study came from the "interdigital region" of the palm, not the area of the palm circled in CE 638.

"Detection and Identification of a Latent Palmprint on a Cartridge" by Michelle E. Waldron and Adrianne Walls, Published 2017 ( Link )

Day could have meant the bulk of the print was on the "underside." What's he going to do? Write "underside of the barrel, with about 30% more on the right side of the barrel and about 20% more on the left side of the barrel"?

First things first.... Thank you, for replying with and an intelligent debate......   I sincerely appreciate your engaging the discussion with your views.   Now if only you could admit that the photo of the so called "palm print" clearly shows that the photo is NOT of the bottom of the steel rifle barrel.    The slot at the right hand side clearly reveals that the so called palm prinr was lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a model 91 /38 Mannlicher Carcano.   

And... as you have acknowledged in saying....Day could have meant the bulk of the print was on the "underside." What's he going to do? Write "underside of the barrel, with about 30% more on the right side of the barrel and about 20% more on the left side of the barrel"?

There is a right SIDE, a left SIDE, a TOP . and a BOTTOM of the barrel ...and each constitutes 1/4 of the circumference, and in the case of the carcano barrel that BOTTOM quarter that Day wrote about is about 1/2 inch across .... if Day was referring to the metal barrel....(But he wasn't referring to the METAL barrel at the time he inscribed the 3 X 5 card, he was referring to the WOODEN forgrip) 

If a man grabbed that barrel why would only a 1/2 inch of his palm  come in contact with the metal barrel?   

[Walt Cakebread]

This is from the Gil Jesus blog page....[Note the red circles]

Photo in the HSCA Report. Where is the sling/mounts? [On the other side?]
 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95#relPageId=449&tab=page
   
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/mauser_reports.htm
 So much for the 'experts'.

Jerry if you visit Gil Jesus blog....  take a look at his position on the so called palm print.... Several years ago Gil improved upon my presentation that shows that the imaginary "palm print was actually lifted from the WOODEN foregrip of a model 91/38 Mannlicher Carcano.   Gil did a fine job of showing the bayonet slot that is cut into the wooden forefrip. and that bayonet slot can be seen on the right hand side of the photo of the alleged "palm Print" ( CE 639 ).

[Jerry Freeman]

There's a case where a palmprint partial was obtained from a .38 Special cartridge

Who loads pistol ammo with the palm of their hand?

[Steve Howsley]

Who loads pistol ammo with the palm of their hand?

No one would think that obviously.

If however you have two or more in a pocket grabbing them in one go would require an action not dissimilar to grabbing a few coins from a pocket. That's when a partial palm print could result.