Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #126 on: January 25, 2018, 07:14:54 PM »
Interesting. Wonder what stupid AND arrogant makes you?

The last refuge of someone who is out of coherent arguments...

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #127 on: January 25, 2018, 11:47:24 PM »
I'm familiar with the use of the caret symbol as a proofreader mark for inserting text, but thank you for Bill-splaining it to me.  But as you allude, not only is the symbol going the wrong way for that usage, but it's not even located in the right place to signify the gap between "Truly" and "had".

You resolve this discrepancy by just pulling out the assumption from thin air that he didn't use the symbol correctly, which is no different from Walt assuming that he meant "and" and didn't use the symbol correctly.  It also resembles a stylized plus sign which people use to indicate "and".  Something like this:



(with the crossbar either faded or missing)

But the bottom line is that neither you or Walt can conclusively determine what Hosty meant by just looking at the note.  In the absence of the ability to ask Hosty what he meant or hope that he later expounded upon them (it doesn't appear that he did), you have to consider what the other interrogation reports said as well as Warren Caster's and Roy Truly's testimonies.  Walt will just say that they were all "damn liars" (including Hosty) and that his take on the handwritten note is the only legitimate interpretation.  But you're not much better.

The testimonies of Caster and Truly support my claim, not Walt's.

The "crossbar" is not "faded or missing" because it's not an ampersand logo and it's not a plus sign; it is an inverted caret which never had a "crossbar".

You don't have to accept it, makes no difference.  It's obvious (to anyone with the ability to interpret) what Hosty did.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2018, 11:52:08 PM by Bill Brown »

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #128 on: January 25, 2018, 11:50:32 PM »

There is no doubt that Hosty intended that the mark was to be a plus sign...

When his son wrote to me to "explain"  his father's scribbled note he told me that his dad intended to say that Mr Truly AND two other men had a rifle outside Mr Truly's office....

Of course I don't believe that.....  Based on the fact that at 3:15 pm Detective Day had just brought he rifle in from the TSBD and it's standard operating procedure to display the murder weapon to a suspect ( to observe his reaction)
I believe that's exactly what happened ....  When they displayed the rifle, Lee told them that he had see (THIS) "rifle + two others" outside Mr Truly's office on the first floor of the TSBD on Wednesday November 20 1963.



They displayed that rifle to Marina, and Robert, and Ruth Paine, and Marguerite Oswald and the whole wide world.....

Hosty's note shows an obvious inverted caret, not a plus sign.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #129 on: January 26, 2018, 12:12:00 PM »
Hosty's note shows an obvious inverted caret, not a plus sign.



When his son wrote to me to "explain"  his father's scribbled note he told me that his dad intended to say that Mr Truly AND two other men had a rifle outside Mr Truly's office..

Thus Tom Hosty confirmed that the symbol is an ampersand......

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #130 on: January 26, 2018, 12:40:34 PM »
Hosty's note shows an obvious inverted caret, not a plus sign.

It is not an inverted caret. An inverted caret would not have the horizontal cross. And why do you think Hosty would use an inverted caret? I bet he wouldn't have known a inverted caret if it had hit him on the head. Get over it he meant "and". The only question is whether he meant "and two other rifles" or "and two other men."
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 12:42:23 PM by Ray Mitcham »

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #131 on: January 26, 2018, 12:49:43 PM »


When his son wrote to me to "explain"  his father's scribbled note he told me that his dad intended to say that Mr Truly AND two other men had a rifle outside Mr Truly's office..

Thus Tom Hosty confirmed that the symbol is an ampersand......


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When his son wrote to me to "explain"  his father's scribbled note he told me that his dad intended to say that Mr Truly AND two other men had a rifle outside Mr Truly's office..

I agree that Hosty's note was basically saying Mr. Truly and 2 other men.  Hosty used the inverted caret to express that.


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Thus Tom Hosty confirmed that the symbol is an ampersand......

No.  it is not an ampersand.  The symbol in Hosty's notes was an obvious inverted caret.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #132 on: January 26, 2018, 12:52:56 PM »
It is not an inverted caret. An inverted caret would not have the horizontal cross. And why do you think Hosty would use an inverted caret? I bet he wouldn't have known a inverted caret if it had hit him on the head. Get over it he meant "and". The only question is whether he meant "and two other rifles" or "and two other men."


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It is not an inverted caret. An inverted caret would not have the horizontal cross.

Good Lord, Ray.  Pay attention.

The inverted caret in Hosty's notes DOES NOT have the horizontal cross.

You're confusing the real symbol in Hosty's notes (the inverted caret) with the symbol that Iacoletti used to try to make a point.