Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2018, 12:58:58 AM »
Thanks, you confirmed what I suspected.

Assumed is probably the right word.

Did Randle actually say the bag was three feet long or was it also something Bookhaut assumed?




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Thanks, you confirmed what I suspected.

Well of course, everyone is familiar with a driveway at the front of a house and it's a reasonable assumption.

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Assumed is probably the right word.

Under the circumstance that has to be the right conclusion, the only possible discrepancy that I can see is that he wrote the address at the start "LINNIE MAE RANDLE, 2439 West Fifth Street, Irving, Texas, phone Blackburn 3-8965".
The next part of the FBI report is most pertinent and everything falls into place because the interview wasn't conducted at her home but elsewhere "was interviewed at the Dallas Police Department" and the unfamiliarity with the property and not knowing that the back door was a busy thoroughfare, led to what Bookhout thought was a logical conclusion.

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Did Randle actually say the bag was three feet long or was it also something Bookhaut assumed?

I don't see the correlation, an assumption based on what, the above assumption was based on something unseen whereas Linnie Mae was there and Bookhout could see her mouth moving and wrote what she said.



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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #120 on: January 25, 2018, 01:37:30 AM »




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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #122 on: January 25, 2018, 04:25:58 PM »
No.  That is not what he wrote, John.

I'm familiar with the use of the caret symbol as a proofreader mark for inserting text, but thank you for Bill-splaining it to me.  But as you allude, not only is the symbol going the wrong way for that usage, but it's not even located in the right place to signify the gap between "Truly" and "had".

You resolve this discrepancy by just pulling out the assumption from thin air that he didn't use the symbol correctly, which is no different from Walt assuming that he meant "and" and didn't use the symbol correctly.  It also resembles a stylized plus sign which people use to indicate "and".  Something like this:



(with the crossbar either faded or missing)

But the bottom line is that neither you or Walt can conclusively determine what Hosty meant by just looking at the note.  In the absence of the ability to ask Hosty what he meant or hope that he later expounded upon them (it doesn't appear that he did), you have to consider what the other interrogation reports said as well as Warren Caster's and Roy Truly's testimonies.  Walt will just say that they were all "damn liars" (including Hosty) and that his take on the handwritten note is the only legitimate interpretation.  But you're not much better.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #123 on: January 25, 2018, 05:18:31 PM »
I'm familiar with the use of the caret symbol as a proofreader mark for inserting text, but thank you for Bill-splaining it to me.  But as you allude, not only is the symbol going the wrong way for that usage, but it's not even located in the right place to signify the gap between "Truly" and "had".

You resolve this discrepancy by just pulling out the assumption from thin air that he didn't use the symbol correctly, which is no different from Walt assuming that he meant "and" and didn't use the symbol correctly.  It also resembles a stylized plus sign which people use to indicate "and".  Something like this:



(with the crossbar either faded or missing)

But the bottom line is that neither you or Walt can conclusively determine what Hosty meant by just looking at the note.  In the absence of the ability to ask Hosty what he meant or hope that he later expounded upon them (it doesn't appear that he did), you have to consider what the other interrogation reports said as well as Warren Caster's and Roy Truly's testimonies.  Walt will just say that they were all "damn liars" (including Hosty) and that his take on the handwritten note is the only legitimate interpretation.  But you're not much better.


There is no doubt that Hosty intended that the mark was to be a plus sign...

When his son wrote to me to "explain"  his father's scribbled note he told me that his dad intended to say that Mr Truly AND two other men had a rifle outside Mr Truly's office....

Of course I don't believe that.....  Based on the fact that at 3:15 pm Detective Day had just brought he rifle in from the TSBD and it's standard operating procedure to display the murder weapon to a suspect ( to observe his reaction)
I believe that's exactly what happened ....  When they displayed the rifle, Lee told them that he had see (THIS) "rifle + two others" outside Mr Truly's office on the first floor of the TSBD on Wednesday November 20 1963.



They displayed that rifle to Marina, and Robert, and Ruth Paine, and Marguerite Oswald and the whole wide world.....
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #124 on: January 25, 2018, 06:00:21 PM »
Thanks.

That confirms the level of intelligence one must have to buy into that.

Arrogant.  Eisenberg said "any bulges or creases or folds".


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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #125 on: January 25, 2018, 06:43:56 PM »
More confirmation.

Still arrogant.  That's your argument?  "I'm right because you're stupid".  Really?