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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2018, 01:29:47 AM »
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Offline Steve Barber

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2018, 02:44:01 AM »
Fine, you accept Frazier's word for the roll call....

How about the way he described Oswald carried the package?

You leave out the fact that Frazier also said he wasn't really paying any attention to it(the way Oswald carried the rifle). 

Offline Allan Fritzke

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2018, 07:11:25 AM »
Let's face it.   3 spent casings were left in the sniper's nest,   a carcano linked to Oswald was found nearby, he worked in the building and was hired just months before the shooting took place.   Too coincidental?   He was also a defector to Russia, married a Russian girl and had ties to Cuba.   Not only that, before he could give a statement, he was assassinated.

I think we have our man!  He is guilty as sin.   Not only that, film evidence coming from the Zapruder film frames Z-313/314 proves without doubt the shots came from this very same sniper's nest where he was present at!   Its pretty well a sealed case, all cut and dried. 

......now how many times can I be struck by lightning and still live?!!!!!!

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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2018, 03:12:09 PM »
And since when does a broken down MC rifle wrapped in a paper bag fit between Oswald's cupped hand and his armpit?

Did you even read what I said?  Frazier, himself, admitted that he wasn't really paying much attention to how O was carrying the rifle, therefore, Frazier may not have seen the rifle sticking above O's shoulder!  When you Oswald sympathizers can come up with  proof that it wasn't O's rifle, get back with us, until then, all you have to go by is two people GUESSING  at the length of the package, Oswald telling Frazier that the package was curtain rods, when no curtain rods were ever found at the sixth floor window where the brown paper was discovered with O's prints on it.  The bullet fragments and whole bullet were fired from O's rifle, to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.  All you have to offer is speculation regarding all these points.  Speculation is not proof.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2018, 03:57:24 PM »
Did you even read what I said?  Frazier, himself, admitted that he wasn't really paying much attention to how O was carrying the rifle, therefore, Frazier may not have seen the rifle sticking above O's shoulder!  When you Oswald sympathizers can come up with  proof that it wasn't O's rifle, get back with us, until then, all you have to go by is two people GUESSING  at the length of the package, Oswald telling Frazier that the package was curtain rods, when no curtain rods were ever found at the sixth floor window where the brown paper was discovered with O's prints on it.  The bullet fragments and whole bullet were fired from O's rifle, to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world.  All you have to offer is speculation regarding all these points.  Speculation is not proof.

Speculation is what you are doing about where the bag was supposedly found. No photo of it in situ in the so called sniper nest, and numerous officers missing seeing it. And nobody admits to picking the bag up. Tell us who admitted picking the bag up, Steve.
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Offline Ray Mitcham

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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2018, 04:14:09 PM »
On November 22, 1963!  Whether you accept it or not, you have no proof that it wasn't his rifle. NONE!

We have no proof it wasn't yours. How do you prove a negative? Prove it was his.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Reclaiming Misery aka Reclaiming History
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2018, 04:42:25 PM »
 
    Conveyance of a disassembled rifle is a catchy subject in itself.
There was no exhibit of the broken down into it's components MC rifle...how many pieces there would be...tools required to reassemble ...were any such tools found? Why utilize a scope when it would obviously not have been sighted in properly? 
All and all there is something sloppy about the whole idea of 'smuggled' in segments of weapon... unseen by anyone and then to where?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2018, 05:34:21 PM »
On page 40 of Bugliosi's verbose novel he recounts the witness who "clearly" saw the rifleman in action.
Howard Brennen "looks up. The man he saw earlier in the sixth floor window is aiming a rifle straight down Elm St. Brennen sees him from the waist up in awful clarity..the rifle braced against his right shoulder as he leans against the left window jamb..the gunman's motions are deliberate and without panic. After a few seconds he fires again."

Vince added all of this loquacious text I suppose to make his book thicker and appear more grandiose.

Who ever said 'you can't make this stuff up'?
The only view that I can possibly see based on Brennen's desciption [according to Vince] would be from the waist down to the knees as --if the gunman was standing..that's all you would see utilizing the appearance of that window.
It would be that.. or the gunman shut the window down really quickly.
Bugliosi wrote Reclaiming [the Myth] in 2007 and after all that time he didn't check into this account and see it as being just simply a physical impossibility.