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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 10:51:58 PM »
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One of the men who saw Lee Oswald at the Cuban Embassy was named ......Alvarado ....

Dear Walter,

Alvarado saw Oswald at the Cuban Embassy, or he claimed to have seen him there?

Was he standing so close to the "red-haired Negro" Cuban and Oswald that he could actually count the $6,500 the dude allegedly gave Oswald?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Regardless, you do realize that Duran, Azcue, and Mirabal worked in the Cuban Consulate, not the Cuban Embassy, right?
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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 01:06:35 AM »
Dear Walter,

Alvarado saw Oswald at the Cuban Embassy, or he claimed to have seen him there?

Was he standing so close to the "red-haired Negro" Cuban and Oswald that he could actually count the $6,500 the dude allegedly gave Oswald?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Regardless, you do realize that Duran, Azcue, and Mirabal worked in the Cuban Consulate, not the Cuban Embassy, right?

Turns out that Alvarado was on the CIA payroll....   But I don't believe Azcue was.....

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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2019, 02:03:33 AM »
Turns out that Alvarado was on the CIA payroll....   But I don't believe Azcue was.....

Dear Walter,

Are you sure about the Nicaraguan intelligence agent, Alvarado?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2019, 02:31:05 PM »
Dear Walter,

Are you sure about the Nicaraguan intelligence agent, Alvarado?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

Who can be sure about any intelligence agent???    But, Yes I do believe he was on the CIA payroll.

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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2019, 03:30:50 PM »
Who can be sure about any intelligence agent???    But, Yes I do believe he was on the CIA payroll.

Dear Walter,

Do you have a rational reason for believing so?

Regardless, do you believe that Nikolai Leonov, the short, blond, very thin-faced "Third Secretary/Assistant Cultural Attache" at the Soviet Embassy who provided Sylvia Duran with a passport-sized photo of Oswald taken in the USSR (and who probably impersonated Oswald over the phone on 10/01/63), was also in the employ of the evil, evil, evil CIA?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2019, 10:32:58 PM »
Dear Walter,

Do you have a rational reason for believing so?

Regardless, do you believe that Nikolai Leonov, the short, blond, very thin-faced "Third Secretary/Assistant Cultural Attache" at the Soviet Embassy who provided Sylvia Duran with a passport-sized photo of Oswald taken in the USSR (and who probably impersonated Oswald over the phone on 10/01/63), was also in the employ of the evil, evil, evil CIA?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

The FBI had determined that Alvarado  was a CIA agent ......

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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2019, 12:19:40 AM »
The FBI had determined that Alvarado  was a CIA agent ......

Dear Walter,

Oh, the FBI, huh?

https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Care to share your sources with us?  Maybe you can find something in here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Gilberto_Alvarado_Allegation.html

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Re: Likely Identity of Mexico City Mystery Man
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2019, 07:30:35 PM »
Dear Walter,

Oh, the FBI, huh?

https://archive.org/details/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

PS  Care to share your sources with us?  Maybe you can find something in here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Gilberto_Alvarado_Allegation.html

Thank you Mud.... this link to the Mary Ferrell site, presents an excellent example of the pros and cons about the Alvarado story....
If Alvarado actually saw a man who looked like Lee Oswald receive a bundle of money from a red headed Negro, then it's highly doubtful that the man who received the money was Lee Oswald.   However that still leaves Silvia Duran, Eusebio Azcue,  Luisa Calderon, and Alfredo Mirabal.... Duran we know, swore that the man she talked to on Friday September 27, was Lee Oswald

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Gilberto_Alvarado_Allegation.html