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Offline Royell Storing

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #328 on: January 12, 2019, 11:39:50 PM »
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   Again, You are making the assumption that Fritz did Not handle the Rifle prior to Alyea filming it being removed from between the boxes. Fritz handled the shell casings inside the sniper's nest Before Alyea had access to it. Why would he deviate from this M.O. with regard to the rifle? He didn't.  People in this line of work are 1 Thing above All else. Consistent

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #328 on: January 12, 2019, 11:39:50 PM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #329 on: January 13, 2019, 01:13:32 AM »
   Again, You are making the assumption that Fritz did Not handle the Rifle prior to Alyea filming it being removed from between the boxes. Fritz handled the shell casings inside the sniper's nest Before Alyea had access to it. Why would he deviate from this M.O. with regard to the rifle? He didn't.  People in this line of work are 1 Thing above All else. Consistent

Alyea filming it being removed from between the boxes.

Nobody reported Fritz touching the rifle prior to Day lifting it FROM THE FLOOR by the leather sling

Please take a closer look.... The rifle is lying on it's right side with the sling up so that Day simply grabs the sling and lifts the rifle.... 

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #330 on: January 13, 2019, 04:34:05 AM »
   Again, You are making the assumption that Fritz did Not handle the Rifle prior to Alyea filming it being removed from between the boxes. Fritz handled the shell casings inside the sniper's nest Before Alyea had access to it. Why would he deviate from this M.O. with regard to the rifle? He didn't.  People in this line of work are 1 Thing above All else. Consistent

Royell there was no opportunity for Fritz to have touched the rifle....There were dozens of officers in the area and civilian reporters plus TSBD employees who Fritz could not control and force them to keep their mouths shut....

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« Reply #330 on: January 13, 2019, 04:34:05 AM »


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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #331 on: January 13, 2019, 11:10:27 AM »
Royell there was no opportunity for Fritz to have touched the rifle....There were dozens of officers in the area and civilian reporters plus TSBD employees who Fritz could not control and force them to keep their mouths shut....

He didn't need an opportunity, the opportunity apparently was not needed for the alleged mix-up that started the issue of the gun to begin with. It is not my fault Cronkite, Paul Harvey etc. say Mauser Mauser Mauser and it isn't their fault. So by using the logic that it would be impossible for Fritz to do these things with so many people around interesting when taking into consideration, the whole world heard the name Mauser 8000 times and over a period of time. Do we need to go back and count how many times Mauser was said or communicated through media until it changed to a cheesy weapon which is about as lethal as two-inch plastic toy gun a child could get free out of a Perkin's wishing well?

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #332 on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:42 PM »
He didn't need an opportunity, the opportunity apparently was not needed for the alleged mix-up that started the issue of the gun to begin with. It is not my fault Cronkite, Paul Harvey etc. say Mauser Mauser Mauser and it isn't their fault. So by using the logic that it would be impossible for Fritz to do these things with so many people around interesting when taking into consideration, the whole world heard the name Mauser 8000 times and over a period of time. Do we need to go back and count how many times Mauser was said or communicated through media until it changed to a cheesy weapon which is about as lethal as two-inch plastic toy gun a child could get free out of a Perkin's wishing well?

Pete, I'm sorry to inform you that you are doomed to wander endlessly in the swamp ...Simply because you're to stubborn to take the clearly obvious path.   Perhaps you don't truly want to know the truth, so you ignore the path that will lead you to it.

We have photo graphs that clearly show that the rifle that was CAREFULLY HIDDEN beneath heavy boxes of books was a model 91 /38 Mannlicher Carcano and it most certainly was NOT a Mauser....

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #332 on: January 13, 2019, 02:12:42 PM »


Offline Royell Storing

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #333 on: January 13, 2019, 04:34:39 PM »
Royell there was no opportunity for Fritz to have touched the rifle....There were dozens of officers in the area and civilian reporters plus TSBD employees who Fritz could not control and force them to keep their mouths shut....

    You are not up-to-speed as to how the search of the 6th floor & the TSBD was conducted. Fritz ordered Law Enforcement including Alyea OFF of the 6th Floor and directed them elsewhere inside the TSBD to continue their search. It was AFTER they returned to the 6th floor that the rifle was discovered. Your claim as to there being "no opportunity" for Fritz to monkey around with the rifle is simply Not True. Please review how the search of the 6th Floor & the TSBD on the whole was conducted. Your opinion(s) are currently based on a Limited amount of information.

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #334 on: January 13, 2019, 05:14:12 PM »
    You are not up-to-speed as to how the search of the 6th floor & the TSBD was conducted. Fritz ordered Law Enforcement including Alyea OFF of the 6th Floor and directed them elsewhere inside the TSBD to continue their search. It was AFTER they returned to the 6th floor that the rifle was discovered. Your claim as to there being "no opportunity" for Fritz to monkey around with the rifle is simply Not True. Please review how the search of the 6th Floor & the TSBD on the whole was conducted. Your opinion(s) are currently based on a Limited amount of information.

Royell....WHEN did Captain Fritz arrive at the TSBD??   I'm certain that you will find that Fritz arrived AFTER the spent shells were discovered...(1:06)    The only floor that was searched after those spent shells were found was the sixth floor. ...and the rifle was found at 1:22 ....Nobody "monkeyed around"  with the rifle after Boone and Weitzman discovered it at 1:22 PM....

Lt Day was the first, and only, person to touch the rifle until Fitz helped him open the bolt of the rifle.... 

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« Reply #334 on: January 13, 2019, 05:14:12 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: What happened to the Mauser?
« Reply #335 on: January 13, 2019, 05:25:03 PM »
He didn't need an opportunity, the opportunity apparently was not needed for the alleged mix-up that started the issue of the gun to begin with. It is not my fault Cronkite, Paul Harvey etc. say Mauser Mauser Mauser and it isn't their fault. So by using the logic that it would be impossible for Fritz to do these things with so many people around interesting when taking into consideration, the whole world heard the name Mauser 8000 times and over a period of time. Do we need to go back and count how many times Mauser was said or communicated through media until it changed to a cheesy weapon which is about as lethal as two-inch plastic toy gun a child could get free out of a Perkin's wishing well?

a cheesy weapon which is about as lethal as two-inch plastic toy gun a child could get free out of a Perkin's wishing well

Are you talking about the rifle used in 9 wars, including I & II

If someone ever points an MC at you, I suggest you duck..
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