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Online Ray Mitcham

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2018, 11:53:42 AM »


All in all no one saw any shooter in Dealey Plaza other than the one in the TSBD sn 6th floor window

Prove they saw a "shooter".

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2018, 03:50:04 PM »
Why did you post this thread? Are you here to educate us ? Did you want three pages of responses that agree with whatever point it is that you're attempting to make? Nope. You started a thread to provoke a negative response in order for you to , in your mind, show your superior debating skills against people that don't agree with whatever point it is you're trying to make. When you get a response, you whip out your little "pointer" and enlighten us with you're typical and elitist smug reply. Why don't you let Duncan decide what and who violates HIS rules instead of you screaming FIRE at the slightest whiff of smoke. Now you can go back to trolling the forum.



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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #52 on: June 27, 2018, 04:07:46 PM »


 JUNE OSWALD

As America's obsession with her father goes on, a daughter tries to set the record straight.

By Steve Salerno

From The New York Times Magazine

April 30, 1995.

"But you have to understand that, aside from what role he had in the assassination, there's the issue of what role he had in our family. I know that in my life, Lee wasn't a good man. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. He beat my mother. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. We lived in poor housing or were taken in by others. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms."
 

Again....hearsay ----became a legend---became a truth
June did not see her father [Oswald]  beat her mother.

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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #53 on: June 27, 2018, 04:22:12 PM »
That is a text book example of an apologist for domestic violence. It might not be what you intended but that's a classic argument used by many wife beaters and their male supporters.

 Of course the present wave of political correctness finds its way here Have you checked out the amount of claims of women claiming to have been abused by NFL players only to claim weeks later that it wasn't true  Who knows what the truth is in any of these stories but you seem to be suggesting a one way street that all claims of suspecting the woman's story can automatically dismissed as domestic violence apologists

 On the other hand it likely Oswald did beatr Marina though I also find that seeming fact to have little bearing on the question of the JFK assassination

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #54 on: June 27, 2018, 04:49:35 PM »


Stay on topic [no personal tizzing]

Oprah is on the cover-up team. Shhhhhh, keep it to yourself. Nutbag.

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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #55 on: June 27, 2018, 05:09:27 PM »
Why did you post this thread?
Because I believe it is most likely that the government establishment run by Johnson-Hoover-Dulles and the CIA- Military cartel used the violent angle [no matter how remotely plausible] to convict Oswald of the assassination.

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Are you here to educate us ?
I merely tried to inform. I now believe the concept of 'educating' has lapsed into an impossibility.
The Trolls have made the topic about me supporting, defending, condoning, excusing, justifying, vindicating, and even pardoning wife beating. Like old women, they are beyond educating.
 
 
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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #56 on: June 27, 2018, 07:45:28 PM »
Because I believe it is most likely that the government establishment run by Johnson-Hoover-Dulles and the CIA- Military cartel used the violent angle [no matter how remotely plausible] to convict Oswald of the assassination.
I merely tried to inform. I now believe the concept of 'educating' has lapsed into an impossibility.
The Trolls have made the topic about me supporting, defending, condoning, excusing, justifying, vindicating, and even pardoning wife beating. Like old women, they are beyond educating.

That's not particularly nice to talk about older women like that. Just for sh**s and giggles, do you have any experience with domestic violence?

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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #57 on: June 27, 2018, 11:59:43 PM »
Of course the present wave of political correctness finds its way here Have you checked out the amount of claims of women claiming to have been abused by NFL players only to claim weeks later that it wasn't true  Who knows what the truth is in any of these stories but you seem to be suggesting a one way street that all claims of suspecting the woman's story can automatically dismissed as domestic violence apologists

 On the other hand it likely Oswald did beatr Marina though I also find that seeming fact to have little bearing on the question of the JFK assassination

That's comparing today's litigious society with Texas of 55 years ago. The Oswald's owned a rifle, a gun, some rounds of ammunition and some odds and sods of stuff amounting to maybe fifty bucks. That's a lifetime away from sport and entertainment stars and their coveted wealth. Support networks for abused women in the 60s would have been pretty thin on the ground I'd imagine. An abused woman back then was just as likely told to try to be a better wife and not make her man so angry.

I think it is clear that Oswald did beat Marina and you agree that it's likely. That says something about his character and that is a factor that must be added to the mix.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2018, 11:55:11 PM »
Howsley .....is that your real name?
I think you've stalked me enough so cut the crap OK?
You wouldn't know the truth if it crawled out of your backside and kicked you in the head.


It's just a diversion.  You ask for evidence that Oswald shot Kennedy and you get accused of "defending a double-murderer".  Ask for evidence that Oswald physically abused his wife and you get accused of being a "domestic abuse apologist".

Then you have Chapman trying to divert by saying that Oswald slept with his mother until age 10, like that has anything to do with wife abusing.

The problem is that righteous indignation does not constitute evidence.

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Online Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2018, 12:20:47 AM »
I spent several years working with victims of domestic abuse (no surprise that it is predominantly women who are the victim) and one of the interesting observations was that many men (almost always the perpetrator and often other male witnesses) would think it OK to belt a woman as though it was good for them.

When I see men on the internet defending the likes of wife beater LHO I wonder how they can dismiss or or even defend his behaviour.

Lee was not a "wife beater"..... Marina said that they did hit each other at times....But she provoked the fights.  That's what she said.   

You really have taken the Government's character assassination of Lee Oswald and twisted it so you can hate him just as they wanted you to do.   

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Re: Did Oswald really beat his wife?
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2018, 12:20:47 AM »