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Online Bill Chapman

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #120 on: July 24, 2018, 08:02:51 PM »
Are you for real?  The people who described his wounds did take a look at JFK at Parkland.

Crenshaw LOL

And show us where I said people didn't [attempt to] look at wounds. By the way, who could see any actual wound except for the autopsy X Ray location (including wedge piece) despite the body never having been turned over in the OR?
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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #121 on: July 24, 2018, 08:11:53 PM »
In interviews with author Gerald Posner, the Parkland doctors were nearly unanimous in their agreement with the autopsy findings at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

Dr. Carrico points out, "We did [originally] say there was a parietal-occipital wound . . . and I think we were mistaken. The reason I say that is that the President was lying on his back and shoulders, and you could see the hole, with scalp and brain tissue hanging back down his head, and it covered most of the occipital [rear] portion of his head. We saw a large hole on the right side of his head. I don't believe we saw any occipital bone. It was not there. It was parietal bone. And if we said otherwise, we were mistaken."

Dr. Adolph Giesecke agrees. "I guess I have to say I was wrong in my Warren Commission testimony on the wound and in some of my pronouncements since then. I just never got that good of a look at it. . . . The truth is there was a massive head wound, with brain tissue and blood around it. And with that type of wound you could not get accurate information unless you feel around inside the hole and look into it in detail, and I certainly didn't do that, nor did I see anyone else do that."

Dr. Paul Peters, portrayed in JFK by I. D. Brickman (see photo above), also concedes his initial impression was inaccurate: ". . . I now believe the head wound is more forward than I first placed it. More to the side than the rear." Dr. Pepper Jenkins states, "The autopsy photo, with the rear of the head intact and a protrusion in the parietal [side] region, is the way I remember it. I never did say occipital."

"I don't think any of us got a good look at the head wound," says Dr. Malcolm Perry. "I did not look at it that closely. . . . But like everyone else, I saw it back there. It was in the occipital/parietal area. The occipital and parietal bone join each other, so we are only talking a centimeter or so in difference. And you must remember the President had a lot of hair, and it was bloody and matted, and it was difficult to tell where the wound started or finished."

Dr. Charles Baxter concurs: "He had such a bushy head of hair, and blood and all in it, you couldn't tell what was the wound versus dried blood or dangling tissue. I have been misquoted enough on this, some saying I claimed the whole back of his head was blown away. That's just wrong. I never even saw the back of his head. The wound was on the right side, not the back."

Dr. Ronald Jones confirms his colleagues' observations, adding he did not even realize for several minutes that there was a head wound. He finally noticed there was a "large side wound, with blood and tissue that extended toward the rear, from what you could tell of the mess that was there."

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Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #122 on: July 24, 2018, 10:09:54 PM »
Because it strains credibility that 20+ experienced ER professionals all mistook the top of the head for the back of the head.

Some of those doctors have said it was understandable considering the circumstances.  John Mytton has shown that the doctors were all over the place on where the wound was.  So they can be wrong obviously.


John could you show me a diagram of where the wound was that would jive with what the doctors said. Don't forget JFK was on his back. I have asked CTs for this many times.  You and the others don't want to do that.. You just want to play defense lawyer. You want it so you can just point out any doctor who didn't  say the wound was exactly where the WC said it was and act like you win. It doesn't matter to you that the Doctors disagree and are all over the place. As long as they say it wasn't exactly where the SC said it was that is good enough for you and your client.
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« Reply #123 on: July 24, 2018, 10:12:52 PM »

            The same way I would assume that if Several Dr's viewed a broken leg they would Not place a cast on the patients arm.

 A clear lack of critical thinks skills.  The doctors were looking at a head of a guy lying on his back with his hair matted with blood and brian tissue.  Trying to compare  that to a broken leg is ridiculous.

I would assume when these doctors were trained they were trained to clean the area and take time observing the wound before they decide where a wound is. Do you disagree with that?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #124 on: July 24, 2018, 10:36:26 PM »
Some of those doctors have said it was understandable considering the circumstances.  John Mytton has shown that the doctors were all over the place on where the wound was.  So they can be wrong obviously.

Sure and so can panels looking at carefully curated and selected autopsy materials.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #125 on: July 24, 2018, 10:41:05 PM »
I would assume when these doctors were trained they were trained to clean the area and take time observing the wound before they decide where a wound is. Do you disagree with that?

You mean like nurses Bowron and Hinchcliffe did?

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« Reply #126 on: July 24, 2018, 11:04:46 PM »
While listening to a very good segment by Dr. Cyril Wecht , Cyril became quite disturbed when the mention of Gary Mack came into the discussion about Oswald being named as the Lone Nut assassin in the JFK case. It was also mentioned the 6th Floor Museum has taken a severe turn on how it captures the Assassination that day. I never was real sure if Gary Mack ever sided with Oswald being the lone killer of JFK , but it seemed that Mack always gave a possible " it could have happened that way " when a scenario would come around for different ways that the President could have been shot , but he seemed to still not buy into the fact that someone other than Oswald could have shot JFK. Dr. Wecht said that Gary Mack " used to be one of us ", but turned out to be a Benedict Arnold. I am a huge fan of Dr. Cyril Wecht and as he explains what he feels happened in Dallas and especially Bethesda , his logic and expertise speaks volumes about the JFK Case.


                You Tube--------- Dr. Cyril Wecht-JFK Lancer Conference ( 11-19-2016 ) 1:11:44 in length

To get this thread back on track, here's a few more comments on Mack.

People go where the money is.  Mack originally said that he saw among the silver nitrate blobs of one of the photos taken as Kennedy was murdered what appeared to him to be a man in a policeman's uniform aiming a gun.

Months or years later, down on his luck, Mack's offered the job as spokesman of the SFM. He suddenly does an about face and becomes the mouth piece of the official story, namely, that Oswald acted alone. Now, I'm not saying Mack was not a nice guy - perhaps he was. But I do find it dubious that he'd get up in front of a camera and act all official while Discovery channel was producing their highly fake shows.

I'll say it as nicely as I can - I find it highly underhanded for someone to do this.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #127 on: July 25, 2018, 12:34:09 AM »
Sure and so can panels looking at carefully curated and selected autopsy materials.





The autopsy photos show no exit hole on the back of Kennedy's head.





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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Gary Mack and the about face !
« Reply #128 on: July 25, 2018, 12:43:19 AM »
The autopsy photos show no exit hole on the back of Kennedy's head.

That's not an autopsy photo, it's a fake "Mytton"-morph.

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« Reply #129 on: July 25, 2018, 12:59:15 AM »
That's not an autopsy photo, it's a fake "Mytton"-morph.




It's actually two autopsy photos, try again!



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« Reply #129 on: July 25, 2018, 12:59:15 AM »