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Offline Bill Brown

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It's not as far fetched as you try to make it to be......  They knew that Lee would be in the theater  because he had been told to met his handler there after the hoax attempt to shoot JFK.   

There are three or four sensible routes to travel from the rooming house on North Beckley to the Texas Theater, if one was instructed to meet his handler inside the theater upon leaving the rooming house.  To end up over on Tenth Street at a point east of Patton is absolutely NOT one of those routes.

Translation:  After leaving the rooming house, if Oswald's destination was the theater, he would not have been at Tenth and Patton.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Oswald was last seen at the Ballew's Texaco Service Station and was next seen 15-20 minutes later half a mile away by Johnny Brewer, so obviously Oswald stopped somewhere, gathered his thoughts and if needed he cleaned himself up, Oswald did what was necessary to not look like a suspect just like when he discarded his jacket.

...or it wasn't the same guy.
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Offline Bill Brown

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Oswald was last seen at the Ballew's Texaco Service Station and was next seen 15-20 minutes later half a mile away by Johnny Brewer, so obviously Oswald stopped somewhere, gathered his thoughts and if needed he cleaned himself up, Oswald did what was necessary to not look like a suspect just like when he discarded his jacket.

...or it wasn't the same guy.



FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

Date 1/22/64

Mrs. MARY BROCK, 4310 Utah, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, she was at the Ballew Texaco Service Station located in the 600 block of Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas. She advised that at approximately 1:30 PM a white male described as approximately 30 years of age; 5 feet, 10 inches; light?colored complexion, wearing light clothing, came past her walking at a fast pace, wearing a light?colored jacket and with his hands in his pockets.

Approximately five minutes later two individuals from Johnny Reynolds Used Car Lot, 500 Jefferson Street, appeared at Ballew's Texaco Service Station, making inquiry as to whether she had noticed the young white man come by the station. She indicated she had, at which time they informed her that this individual had in all probability shot a Dallas police officer. She advised she informed them that the individual proceeded north behind the Texaco station and she last observed him in the parking lot directly behind Ballew's Texaco Service Station.

Mrs. BROCK was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD 9 112723, dated August 9, 1963, which she identified as being the same person she observed on November 22, 1963, at Ballew's Texaco Service Station.

Mrs. BROCK advised at the time she saw OSWALD on November 22, 1963, she was unaware of the fact that President JOHN FITZGERALD KENNEDY had been assassinated, and she was unaware that Dallas Police Officer J. D. TIPPIT had been shot.

on 1/21/64 at Dallas, Texas File # DL 100-10461

By Special Agents JOHN T. KESLER and VERNON MITCHEM - LAC Date dictated 1/22/64
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Offline John Anderson

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I must admit the amount of people who identified Oswald from a photo or ID parade AFTER seeing him on TV or newspapers is disturbing.

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Mrs. BROCK was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, New Orleans PD 9 112723, dated August 9, 1963, which she identified as being the same person she observed on November 22, 1963, at Ballew's Texaco Service Station.

Yes, I know Mary Brock was shown a mugshot of Oswald months later and thought it was the guy she saw walking by the gas station.  But that doesn't mean it was.  That's not even a valid way to do a photo showup.  Her husband couldn't identify him.

And that still doesn't account for where he had been for the previous 15-20 minutes if the guy Brock saw was the same guy Callaway saw.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Yes, I know Mary Brock was shown a mugshot of Oswald months later and thought it was the guy she saw walking by the gas station.  But that doesn't mean it was.  That's not even a valid way to do a photo showup.  Her husband couldn't identify him.

And that still doesn't account for where he had been for the previous 15-20 minutes if the guy Brock saw was the same guy Callaway saw.

Why do you feel that Oswald's missing "15-20 minutes" need to be accounted for?  He was hiding somewhere (even though not for 15-20 minutes).  So what?
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You always skip what her husband told the FBI.

"ROBERT BROCK was shown a photograph of LEE HARVEY OSWALD, at which time he advised he could not positively identify same as being identical with the individual who had passed him at Ballew's Texaco Service Station."

Robert Brock wouldn't positively identify the man as being Oswald.  This has nothing to do with Mary Brock's positive identification.  Maybe Robert Brock simply didn't pay as much attention to the man as Mary did.  What's your point?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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He was hiding somewhere (even though not for 15-20 minutes).  So what?

How do you know that?  Circular argument.