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Offline Michael Chambers

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Coincidences Involved??
« on: June 11, 2018, 09:43:33 AM »
Coincidence or ---

Oswald has seemingly extensive long term CIA connections.
50 Dallas Police are ex CIA and so apparently to a small degree is Shelley TBD boss.
There are rumours of small amounts of gunrunning and drug smuggling via the TBD.
BWF is involved among other guns at the TBD immediately prior to the assassination.

Oswald gets a seemingly airtight naturally occurring job in TBD.

Days prior to the assassination a LHO is hitchhiking carrying "curtain rods" and talking extensively of assassination.

Oswald breaks from habit to go home with BWF on a Thursday to pick up curtain rods.
BWF and LMR say they see LHO with bag he says has curtain rods in it.

BWF parks car but there is something that all of a sudden needs attention of it and so on that day BWF ends up
walking well behind LHO on to the TBD.

BWF says he sees LHO carrying a 34-36inch long package from cupped hand to under armpit.
Which would mean if LHO was from cupped hand resting it on shoulder front, approx 10 inches
of packet would stick up above the shoulder.

When LHO enters TBD only Jack Doherty an involved suspect sees him enter.

Shelley has for some days been supervising a floor repair crew (correct me if I'm wrong here guys) which has finished
the 5th floor, moved to the 6th floor and that assassination morning is working down the SN side and lane of the TBD
TOWARDS the SN.

Coincidence or --- ;) 8) Walk:

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Offline Michael Chambers

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 09:07:43 AM »
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HI Michael
Lovelady is the one in trouble with the FBI on stolen guns
when he skips bail; O V Campbell [VP / TSBD] pays the fine [on a loan] to drop the charges

Most I could find on it so far. Walk:



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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 02:39:27 PM »
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Coincidence or ---

Oswald has seemingly extensive long term CIA connections.
50 Dallas Police are ex CIA and so apparently to a small degree is Shelley TBD boss.
There are rumours of small amounts of gunrunning and drug smuggling via the TBD.
BWF is involved among other guns at the TBD immediately prior to the assassination.

Coincidence or "Fiction", I think that is the word we are looking for.

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 12:37:06 AM »
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Coincidence or ---

Oswald has seemingly extensive long term CIA connections.
50 Dallas Police are ex CIA and so apparently to a small degree is Shelley TBD boss.
There are rumours of small amounts of gunrunning and drug smuggling via the TBD.
BWF is involved among other guns at the TBD immediately prior to the assassination.


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Coincidence or "Fiction", I think that is the word we are looking for.

 
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Waaal mebbe Richard as I just took the below enclosed at its word for it
;) :D Walk:

So, Who Killed Tippit?
There has been talk about fellow officers Harry Olsen or Roscoe White, while other information suggests Jack Ruby and a rogue agent by the name of Gary Marlowe. The sad answer is nobody knows. How they guided him into an ambush on 10th Street could possibly be thru Collins Radio, perhaps controlled from a moving vehicle with communication onboard. Or maybe it was the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment who used its radio central in the Dallas Civil Defense Emergency Operation Center, situated in the basement under Science Place Planetarium Building in Fair Park. The leader of the 488th was Jack Crichton, a CIA associate with George Bush, who both recruited for Operation 40 ? the unit first designed to assassinate Fidel Castro. We know there were many men from Operation 40 present in Dealey Plaza that day. Crichton?s 488th numbered a total of 100 men, 50 of them worked for the Dallas Police Department. On the other hand have we seen the shadow of Collins Radio when a Dallas reporter with the local FBI put a trace on the license plate number of the red Ford Falcon and found out its owner was a Collins Radio employee who was a friend of JD Tippit. It was of course Collins Radio who directed the radio communication from the White House to Air Force One going back to Washington and Bethesda Naval Hospital with the body of JFK.

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 05:09:04 AM »
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A misdemeanor resulting in a small fine.

 It's Texas after all

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2018, 04:12:16 AM »

AND via this link courtesy of Barry Pollard recently in "Prayer Woman" topic in the first few minutes ?..

Buell is very personally thick and friendly with Billy Lovelady.

Coincidences Or??..

I don't see it gone into very much anywhere but Buell just happens to be involved here there and everywhere.

Maybe just the naturally occurring sequence but maybe a lot more of something involved.


How many others of the supposed pristinely innocent TBD employees and associated are capable of not so pristinely innocent?



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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2018, 04:23:59 AM »
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AND via this link courtesy of Barry Pollard recently in "Prayer Woman" topic in the first few minutes ?..

Buell is very personally thick and friendly with Billy Lovelady.

Coincidences Or??..

I don't see it gone into very much anywhere but Buell just happens to be involved here there and everywhere.

Maybe just the naturally occurring sequence but maybe a lot more of something involved.


How many others of the supposed pristinely innocent TBD employees and associated are capable of not so pristinely innocent?

Yeah, you really must wonder why the mastermind that arranged the conspiracy didn't have BWF bumped off so that he wouldn't spill the beans. I suppose he could have been killed in an automobile accident or shot in a fake armed robbery in a car park ... the possibilities are endless yet there he is still speaking freely about whatever pops into his mind 55 years later.. Remember what Bugliosi said in relation to the assassination:

" ... three people can keep a secret, but only if two of them are dead."
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2018, 04:56:24 AM »
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Yeah, you really must wonder why the mastermind that arranged the conspiracy didn't have BWF bumped off so that he wouldn't spill the beans. I suppose he could have been killed in an automobile accident or shot in a fake armed robbery in a car park ... the possibilities are endless yet there he is still speaking freely about whatever pops into his mind 55 years later.. Remember what Bugliosi said in relation to the assassination:

" ... three people can keep a secret, but only if two of them are dead."


I agree Steve to the extent of that view. And I was more thinking its just the element involved of some shady associations very likely not to be a major or any conspiracy involvement. I just like to try and visualise the realistic playing field.


But one thing that could have involved relevancies of it, is if it was a conspiracy, it has to be so wide and going into an anti JFK Texas and Dallas based Political belief, that has kept its mouth totally shut to this day on all the major specifics involved.

In that view minor players could have adopted that belief or been coerced into playing along. EG it seems unlikely LHO had any bag at all and if not BWF still doesn't come clean even though you would think he is well clear of Police threat of intimidation for quite some years now.

You see what I am saying?? ie Anyone adopting that political view is in favor of bumping JFK off from wide Texas involvement. 8)

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2018, 08:08:22 AM »
I just thought its worth noting, even though my view is there was no bag, that if there was a bag ? in light of ...

"Days prior to the assassination a LHO is hitchhiking carrying "curtain rods" and talking extensively of assassination.

Oswald breaks from habit to go home with BWF on a Thursday to pick up "curtain rods".
BWF and LMR say they see LHO with bag he says has "curtain rods" in it."

In the aspect of if Oswald is a patsy thinking his arranged and ordained roles are something other than he thinks they are,
Then maybe he was INSTRUCTED to go to Ruths on Thursday and bring a bag claiming it was "curtain rods" for his part.

THEN the bag would have been about 20 inches, fitting as Buell claims, easily made at Ruth Paines anyway at all and because Oswald
fairly obviously didn't have bag making materials on him for the ride with Buell ..

AND it most likely wouldn't contain gun or curtain rods.  8) Walk: :D

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