Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #196 on: July 07, 2018, 05:49:52 PM »
You damn liar. 
  :-[  'That's wrong' would have sufficed.

 

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #197 on: July 07, 2018, 06:02:04 PM »
  :-[  'That's wrong' would have sufficed.

Says the guy who dismisses LNers as lemmings and parrots. And calls Bug a liar who makes things up.  So no, 'that's wrong' does not suffice.

Well, we lemmings do our research. Trojan has purposely left out the first names of both Stovalls, hoping that no one will check that. A typical CTer feint.
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #198 on: July 07, 2018, 10:55:55 PM »
Says the guy who dismisses LNers as lemmings and parrots. And calls Bug a liar who makes things up.  So no, 'that's wrong' does not suffice.

Well, we lemmings do our research. Trojan has purposely left out the first names of both Stovalls, hoping that no one will check that. A typical CTer feint.

I just made a false assumption like every LNer does here. Stovall isn't exactly a common name. So every time you are mistaken (which is all the bloody time) you're a damn liar? Aren't you taking this a little too personally, dufus?

"Well, we lemmings do our research."  :D

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #199 on: July 07, 2018, 11:21:39 PM »
Says the guy who dismisses LNers as lemmings and parrots. And calls Bug a liar who makes things up.  So no, 'that's wrong' does not suffice.

Well, we lemmings do our research. Trojan has purposely left out the first names of both Stovalls, hoping that no one will check that. A typical CTer feint.

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?Bob Stovall [the president of Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall, where Oswald previously worked] does not recommend this man. He was released [there] because of his record as a troublemaker.? Stovall also informed Padgett that Oswald had ?communistic tendencies.?
Find and post a link that cites this officially and I will apologize for calling you a lemming.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #200 on: July 08, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »
Find and post a link that cites this officially and I will apologize for calling you a lemming.

trou?ble?mak?er
ˈtrəbəlˌmākər
noun
noun: troublemaker; a person who habitually causes difficulty or problems


TESTIMONY OF ROBERT L. STOVALL
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/stova_ro.htm

Mr. STOVALL. He sought employment at another company here in town, a printing company.
Mr. JENNER. Do you recall the name of that company?
Mr. STOVALL. Padgett Printing Co.--Padgett Printing and Lithographing Co., and the superintendent over there called me and he gave us as a reference.
Mr. JENNER. Do you know the superintendent's name?
Mr. STOVALL. Ted Gangel.
 
(...)
 
Mr. JENNER. They are here in Dallas?
Mr. STOVALL Yes--he's their superintendent. He called me and asked me and I told him I did not know, but I would check, so I asked John Graef and they said this fellow was kind of an oddball, and he was kinda peculiar sometimes and that he had had some knowledge of the Russian language, which--this is all I knew, so I told Ted, I said, "Ted, I don't know, this guy may be a damn Communist. I can't tell you. If I was you, I wouldn't hire him."

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Mr. STOVALL. I don't believe so. There was such a short period of time this fellow worked for us and he was a constant source of irritation because of his lack of productive ability, that----
Mr. JENNER. Would you elaborate on that, please?
Mr. STOVALL. We would ask him to reduce a line to 4 inches in width, that happened to be 6, and he might make it 4 1/4 or 3 7/8, and this was a loss in labor and materials both, and it had to be redone.
Mr. JENNER. Did this occur with greater frequency than you thought--than your people thought was permissible, having in mind the progress which you would expect of him or a man in his position to have attained?
Mr. STOVALL. Yes; that's true.
Mr. JENNER. What about his relations with others in the company---other employees-how did he get along, or did that come to your attention?
Mr. STOVALL I don't think anyone liked him or disliked him either one. He was just one of those people you don't know. If you don't know a guy, you can't know if you don't like him. That's probably the main reason we don't like him. Someone made mention in one instance that he bumped them in a dark room, which is a walkway area, and if a guy's bent over a tray and somebody else is coming by--he will get bumped, and it depends on who is doing the bumping, whether you get upset about it or not.
Mr. JENNER. Well, it can be done without taking offense to one another?
Mr. STOVALL. There's nothing at all wrong in it. There's no pain at all in saying "Excuse me."
Mr. JENNER. Yes; and apparently he was not inclined to do that.

Mr. STOVALL. It seems that that's so---yes.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #201 on: July 08, 2018, 08:17:41 PM »
I just made a false assumption like every LNer does here. Stovall isn't exactly a common name. So every time you are mistaken (which is all the bloody time) you're a damn liar? Aren't you taking this a little too personally, dufus?

"Well, we lemmings do our research."  :D

"I just made a false assumption like every LNer does here. Stovall isn't exactly a common name"
>>> Huh? I immediately red-flagged the Stovall name coincidence. No false assumption on my part. I do my research. You only look for convenient ways to trick people into buying into your daffy theories. Then shuck & jive by trying to lay blame elsewhere. Typical CTer.

"So every time you are mistaken (which is all the bloody time*) you're a damn liar?"
>>> What? You brainiacs call us liars in every post. LOL


* Excuse me? Are you still claiming that DPD Stovall and JCS Stovall are the same person?
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Online John Mytton

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Re: Bugliosi's "Conclusion of No Conspiracy"
« Reply #202 on: July 09, 2018, 11:51:39 PM »



25. Oswald told Marina he didn?t care for his job at the Book Depository Building, and as late as November 9 (Ruth Paine thinks it may have been November 2),65 just thirteen days before the assassination, he applied for a job, per Marina, at ?some photographic? company but did not get it.66 So up to thirteen days before the assassination, or twenty at the most, Oswald sought a job that would have taken him away from his sniper?s nest right above the president?s limousine. Some conspiracy.
RHVB




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